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No. 160
from afranklin
Old Sep 25, 2008, 10:41 AM

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This reminds me of the rivalry I face between my method of producing a
court transcript between me and the machine writers!

We are voice writers; the machine writers do not support us; wonder

why?
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No. 161
from angec72
Old Sep 28, 2008, 06:09 PM

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I have been an LPN for 11 years and have just not been able to go back to school. Some people learn differently. I am a hands on learner not a book learner. I would love to have this opportunity. I have extra certifications in IVs, wound care, assessments/care plans that have given me the ability to care for my patients above an LPN without them. I have signed the petition. Thanks for sharing it!
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No. 162
Old Sep 30, 2008, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by angec72 View Post
I have been an LPN for 11 years and have just not been able to go back to school. Some people learn differently. I am a hands on learner not a book learner. I would love to have this opportunity. I have extra certifications in IVs, wound care, assessments/care plans that have given me the ability to care for my patients above an LPN without them. I have signed the petition. Thanks for sharing it!

You need those "book-learning" skills to become more knowledgeable in your profession, and to know the hows and whys of what might be happening to a patient you have. Some things you just cannot learn by doing it "hands on". And all of the certifications that you may have still are just within your scope of practice, therefore though you have progressed your basic knowledge it is still under the LPN scope.
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No. 163
from SA Girl
Old Sep 30, 2008, 09:42 AM

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Y not??????
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No. 164
Old Sep 30, 2008, 09:42 AM

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There are RNs at my job who never did things like TPN or Remove PICC lines and that is in their scope of practice. They learned on the job, which is just a fact of life in this field. Healthcare is continually evolving, and you must stay current to practice safely. Many LPNs take that seriously and keep up with their education by ongoing research. Despite that, I highly doubt anyone would go and try and take the NCLEX without studying. That meets your requirement for 'book learning'. History has shown that formal education does not equal capability. Look at Thomas Edison, his teachers thought he was dull due to hearing loss. At 12 he went to work but continued learning on his own. I've done College level work and know most of it requires self study. A lot of college is simply paying for the course, which is your 'proof'. I think sometimes we rely too much on those credentials in our society. The cost of college probably shuts out a good portion of capable people. And as far as clinical work goes, on the job LPN experience does lead to critical thinking skills, you can't take care of patients for years and not eventually see the connection between what we do and why. Nevermind the experience you get dealing with other diciplines. LPNs that have 10 years experience are way ahead of any new grad RN in this respect, or even 5 for that matter.
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No. 165
from GooeyRN
Old Sep 30, 2008, 12:10 PM

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I graduated from both an LPN and an RN program. I really think there is a lot of value in going to an RN program if one wants to be an RN.
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No. 166
from ernursen
Old Oct 09, 2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by withasmilelpn View Post
There are RNs at my job who never did things like TPN or Remove PICC lines and that is in their scope of practice. They learned on the job, which is just a fact of life in this field. Healthcare is continually evolving, and you must stay current to practice safely. Many LPNs take that seriously and keep up with their education by ongoing research. Despite that, I highly doubt anyone would go and try and take the NCLEX without studying. That meets your requirement for 'book learning'. History has shown that formal education does not equal capability. Look at Thomas Edison, his teachers thought he was dull due to hearing loss. At 12 he went to work but continued learning on his own. I've done College level work and know most of it requires self study. A lot of college is simply paying for the course, which is your 'proof'. I think sometimes we rely too much on those credentials in our society. The cost of college probably shuts out a good portion of capable people. And as far as clinical work goes, on the job LPN experience does lead to critical thinking skills, you can't take care of patients for years and not eventually see the connection between what we do and why. Nevermind the experience you get dealing with other diciplines. LPNs that have 10 years experience are way ahead of any new grad RN in this respect, or even 5 for that matter.
AMEN!!!!!!!! Could not have said it better myself.
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No. 167
from miffe03
Old Oct 10, 2008, 02:18 AM

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Hello Everyone,
Well on a matter of principle I have just signed the petition being sent to congress. Every LVN/LPN owe it to themselves to signed this petition, its not just a question of qualification, but rather one of Honor. When I went through school, I had to pass all clinical skills in the lab every semester for 4 semesters, and practices at these same local colleges then and up until maybe 4-5yrs ago was the RN students got to pick what skills to take tests on. This meant new RN grads applying at local hospitals having only thoretical knowledge of some basic nursing skills, and how do I know because it happened at my hospital, A few years after I graduated a new RN grad was asked to place a foley and she said "whats a foley". After that I know one local college changed its clinical expectations and Just like the LVN students, the RN students had to pass all lab clinicals. Just stop and think for a minute, do you have to pay for a licence do you have to maintain continuing education credits before you can renew your licence, we do here in California, 30units every two years. Do you consider yourself a professional and competent individual are you not tired and fed-up of sometimes being in an enviroment where your competence may be in question because you chose to be a bedside nurse as opposed to the nurse who prefers to do paperwork rather than get their hands dirty. One comment heard from a new grad (RN)"I was told in school I wouldn't be doing this,(we were cleaning a pt at the time) I would be a manager only. I wonder what the N in RN stands for. The N in LVN stands for Nurse. If you stand by and stay silent, the RN Educators will take even more skills away from us. How many of you feel angry about what we have already lost. Now is the time to unite now is the time to stand up and be counted. Send out the call, sign the petition. Tell congress "WE WILL NOT GO QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT WE HAVE VOICE. Take care Peace & Love
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No. 168
from miffe03
Old Oct 10, 2008, 02:33 AM

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well I would sign the petition maybe its before I decided to go to Nursing school I already had my AS degree all nursing prerequisites, so since day dot have approached my assessments utilizing the disease process, however when former LVN/LPNs who have completed the step-up program, talk about the difference because you know use the disease process, I want to scream. How did you assess your pt as a LVN/LPN how could you not use this process to update careplans, to report to your Charge nurse about changes, to give PRN treatments. How were you able to complete your care?. Please tell me.
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No. 169
from Woodenpug
Old Oct 10, 2008, 04:42 AM

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The difference between LVN/LPN and RN is difficult to explain to someone who as not "been there, done that." I mean real experience as an LVN/LPN as opposed to doing it while earning the RN or for a few months prior to getting into RN school. I've been an RN now for a little more than a year and can assure you that it is quite different, however, all of the learning for me has been "on the job." With the exception of learning better formal writing and formal speaking skills, the RN school was of little use. (again, for me.) As I posted earlier in this thread, I still support the petition and have signed it.
For part of the answer as to how RN is different - I spent most of my patient advocacy time as an LVN convincing my RN of what is better for the patient. As an RN, I spend most of my patient advocacy time with MD's, Pharmacists, Nursing administration and lab techs. I don't have to convince myself to get a needed order, pass a PRN med, etc.
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