I was hired and then the job was taken from me, please advise me

[brathernotsay]

Hi I have been recruited to an interview for a LTC facility and was hired and was told that the Director of Care would email me my orientation hours at the end of the day that I was hired on. I waited and waited and since it was Friday figured he was tied up and forgave that. Later in the week I still had noticed no emailed orientation hours were sent to me. So I called him and his answering machine kicked in, so I told him who I was and the nature of the call and asked if he could kindly call me back. I waited 2 days. Still no call back, then I call back and the voice messenger kicked in again. I once again asked him to please return my call. No call back once again. So I used my home phone and blocked the number he picked up the phone in one ring. I told him who I was and asked him if he could let me know when I would be receiving my orientation schedule. He said he was sorry but had 2 other LPNs that had more seniority had responded to the offer and with the union they have to follow protocol which is the LPNs that had more seniority get offered the position before me. So back to the job boards i go. The same day he sent me the message that he had to rescind the LPN position its posted again. Not sure what is going on but I am feeling a bit appalled, yet in his message to me he said that if other future posting come up from his facility to not hesitate to apply. My question is why would he re-post the position after sending me that he had two other LPNs that had more seniority over me were given a chance at the posting and then to turn around and re post the position? what would you think about this situation and could there be something done about this?

[caliotter3]

I would focus my attention at getting hired somewhere else. No matter what transpired with the reposting of the position, refusing to return your calls and then seemingly telling you something left of center, is enough indication that this might not be the place where you want to work.

[TheCommuter, BSN, RN]

what would you think about this situation and could there be something done about this?

What would I think about this situation? I think he changed his mind about hiring you, and therefore, is not going to hire you regardless of how much you try.

Job-seeking is similar to dating: one party is sometimes more interested than the other. If a hiring manager loses interest in you, (s)he can rescind the offer and re-post it, hoping someone else responds with whom they feel they'll click. If a man or woman loses interest in a person they're dating, they break up and put themselves back on the dating market, looking for someone with whom they'll click.

This is a case of "I am just not that into you." I presume you never had a solid, written offer of employment placed in your hands, so there's nothing you can do. Dust yourself off and move on from this situation. Good luck!

[xoemmylouox, ASN, RN]

That is frustrating. I would look elsewhere at this point. It sounds like they aren't going to hire you regardless of how many times you apply. Who know why. Maybe a reference called back and did not give you a stellar reference? Maybe someone that works there recognized you and doesn't like you? Maybe they decided today they don't like your name.. Seriously it doesn't matter at this point. Be thankful you know their true colors before you started working there.

[BuckyBadgerRN, ASN, RN]

Big fat red flag. If you have to chase him around that much AND use a blocked number to reach him, count your blessings and keep looking!!

[Been there,done that, ASN, RN]

No, the job was not taken from you, you never had it.

As for me, I would pursue the (real ) reason for the retraction. You have something going on that you need to know about.

Good luck, that one was not meant to be.

[jadelpn, LPN, EMT-B]

Unless you get a written hire letter, there's not much you can do.

And yes, in a union, people with seniority can and do get transferred. Also, if 2 LPNS wanted one position with the same seniority, if they chose to have 2 positions on, say, the same shift, they have to repost it, or post for one other position. Seems a bit foolish, but all positions have to be posted, even if there's internal candidates who want them and apply for them.

Going forward, as soon as someone says "you are hired, I will send you your orientation schedule" ask for an immediate hire letter, outlining the pay rate, the hours, the position....That way, you have written proof that you were hired. Even then, if they are not calling you, avoiding you, whatever the case may be, I am not sure you would want to work there to begin with. And it is never a bad question to ask "is this job open to internal candidates/have you had internal applications?" Then you have some idea of what you may be up against, especially if it is a union facility.

[TheCommuter, BSN, RN]

I just have a personal recollection to add. In Nov. 2012 I was interviewed and verbally offered a position at a company as a nurse who coordinates care at group homes for clients with developmental disabilities. My agreed-upon start date would have been on a Monday in Dec. 2012.

On that Friday prior to my intended start date, a nurse manager from the new place of employment left me a hasty voice mail message indicating that new my job offer was being rescinded due to budgetary constraints, but to "please remain on standby."

I had gotten this sorry voice mail message on a Friday and was to have started the new position a couple of days later on a Monday. In essence, I tucked my tail between my legs, requested have my resignation from my old job rescinded, and basically got my old job back that way.

As unprofessional as it appears, it is what it is. If an offer of employment has been rescinded, it is in the job-seeking nurse's best interests to keep looking.