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Jun 28, 2009, 04:04 AM
 Re: fired for refusing to practice out of my scope
I look at it this way. Yes, you lost your job, but you still have your integrity, your self-respect and your license. There will always be unscrupulous jerks who are perfectly happy to stroke someone's ego to get cheap labor. That 20yr old may think she's the sh*ts now, but eventually something bad will happen.
Hopefully someone will chime in regarding the legality of your termination, what to do regarding their unsafe practices, etc. but I think you should actually be happy to be outta there.
Kudos to you for sticking up for yourself.   | | No. 4 |
Jun 28, 2009, 08:41 PM
Re: fired for refusing to practice out of my scope
i have a similar situation for all you....it isnt as bad as the first poster,but it is something i questioned..
i work in a state run facility for the MR.....the house i work in is for 12 very medically frail MR individuals....we are all lpns and rns......there is a house nearby who needs nurses for insulin coverage from time to time.....well,their MARS are alot different than ours....they go by how mjuch food the person eats PLUS a sliding scale....ours is just 12 units of such at these times and a sliding scale...anyway.....we got o provide this service on the word of the direct care aides....we do not do the BS test they do it before the person eats,then we go...i dont think that is right.....but the supervisors all say it is ok cause these direct care aides are trained to do the BS test just not the shots...only nurses....what do you all think
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Jun 29, 2009, 12:27 AM
 Re: fired for refusing to practice out of my scope
thanks for the responses, i did actually call the state bon and told them what happened and unfortunately, even though the nurse manager and the doctor should have known that cutting polyps was out of an lpn scope before hiring one to do it, they did not and now since i've informed them he has the right to let me go according to the bon, i have considered contacting the medical board as my next step as well as an attorney because it's just not right , if i had sense enough to question this, then certainly you would think the doctor would and now i hate to think of all the patients going in thinkig they have a doctor removing their polyps when it's actually going to be a 20 year old who was considering dental hygiene beore but wasn't really sure and has had about a weeks wrth of training to cut polyps and no other formal medical training, that is VERY scary, especially when the preop nurse there tells the patients and the consent form they sign states the doctor will be removing them. i just wonder how it can be proved if no one else there is willing to speak up. Again, thanks so much for replying and i am proud of myself for sticking up for myself and not being afraid of ******* the doctor off, lol. it is kinda funny that now he's trying to get away with letting his license cover an unlicensed person since i also had to inform them that a doctro's license cannot and does not cover a nurse, we have our own rules to follow and just because they order us to do something does not make it okay. Also scary that a doctor does not know that.
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Jun 29, 2009, 01:29 AM
Re: fired for refusing to practice out of my scope Originally Posted by momtojosh  i have a similar situation for all you....it isnt as bad as the first poster,but it is something i questioned..
i work in a state run facility for the MR.....the house i work in is for 12 very medically frail MR individuals....we are all lpns and rns......there is a house nearby who needs nurses for insulin coverage from time to time.....well,their MARS are alot different than ours....they go by how mjuch food the person eats PLUS a sliding scale....ours is just 12 units of such at these times and a sliding scale...anyway.....we got o provide this service on the word of the direct care aides....we do not do the BS test they do it before the person eats,then we go...i dont think that is right.....but the supervisors all say it is ok cause these direct care aides are trained to do the BS test just not the shots...only nurses....what do you all think
I think the extra couple minutes it takes to do your own blood sugars is well worth it in peace of mind. It's one thing if a tech on a unit you are working WITH takes the blood sugar, you know and trust them. Here, you don't. Nope. Too much room for error.
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Jun 29, 2009, 07:39 AM
Re: fired for refusing to practice out of my scope
I plan on talking to a very good family friend who is also the attorney for the city his practice is in and see what he thinks about the whole deal, I know attorneys are much better at researching laws governing medical boards and any similar cases and let him file the complaint if he feels it should be and i will be willing to share my experience, I will let you all know what happens but in the meantime, any nurses reading this who are unsure whether or not what a doctor or nurse supervisor is asking you to do is in your scope, please refuse to do it until you find out for sure, obviously they don't care about your license, you have to protect yourselves, again, Thanks ya'll, wish me luck!!
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if I were you, I would contact the state BON and report the situation to them. Good luck finding a job and once again I am so sorry that happened to you.
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