Do LPNs Get the Respect They Deserve? - page 4

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ok, well, i am a pre-nursing student. i am waiting to see if i get accepted to an lpn program right now. i later plan on finishing up and getting my degree after i have worked as an lpn for awhile. since i have made this decision... Read More


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    Quote from Dixiedi
    Only thing I disagree with there is ... I never have sweat it out. No reason to. Read it, do it. I am very lucky there. Got a brain like a trap. Yes, I know I am very lucky. I know many people who have had to study, study, study.
    I DO however have to sweat out the financing. Will I be able to come up with what I need when I need it... (3 college age boys) They are why I had to quit years ago when my first hubby died and I had to raise the boys alone.

    I will give to your opinion that until I have completed a course I can not fully judge that program. But... I won't give n the mathmatics. 2 9 month school years, nearly 1/2 spent in courses that may help with the nursing courses < 12 months in nursing courses.

    Have a great day, I have to get some laundry done... Reality.
    I hope you can come back here and say it was all easy! You deserve that....It sounds like you have had your share of *hard times.* Yes, you are lucky to be someone who retains easily. Happy Laundry doing! Email me sometime and let me know how you are doing.
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    Quote from Dixiedi
    When I went to LPN school, preadmission testing required collegiate level scores in the humanities, sciences and English. Then we spent 12 months studying nursing courses. We used the same text books a couple of the RN programs in town were using for at least two of our courses. (one was Good Samaritan Hospital Diploma Program and the other was the University of Cincinati BSN program)
    The ADN program in town offers 2 school years of classes. 9 months each. 1/2 of that is spent in ... what? the same things my school required us to test in before admission. Who got more nursing education? (I won't even go into the sorry excuse the ADN and BSN programs have for clinical experience when compared to our LPN program!)
    Here's how my CC ADN Program works:

    First you must finish the prereqs: anat & phys 1&2, composition, micro, prob and stat, adult and child psych, etc. Takes most ppl 1-2 years. Then you apply to the ADN program, which takes two years to complete. This is two years of STRICTLY NSG EDUCATION and clinical time - nothing else.

    To the OP, there are plenty of opportunities out there for LPNs - and remember to be proud that you will be a NURSE, just like any other LPN or RN.
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    Quote from nursbee04
    Here's how my CC ADN Program works:

    First you must finish the prereqs: anat & phys 1&2, composition, micro, prob and stat, adult and child psych, etc. Takes most ppl 1-2 years. Then you apply to the ADN program, which takes two years to complete. This is two years of STRICTLY NSG EDUCATION and clinical time - nothing else.

    To the OP, there are plenty of opportunities out there for LPNs - and remember to be proud that you will be a NURSE, just like any other LPN or RN.
    I said when I went to school. My point is that there is not as great a difference in LPNs and RNs as many think there is. Yes, it has apparently changed and I would hope that ALL diploma/degree programs did.
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    Quote from Dixiedi
    I said when I went to school. My point is that there is not as great a difference in LPNs and RNs as many think there is. Yes, it has apparently changed and I would hope that ALL diploma/degree programs did.
    I guess I mistook your post.
    I read this part:
    Quote from Dixiedi
    The ADN program in town offers 2 school years of classes. 9 months each. 1/2 of that is spent in ... what?
    as present tense.
    I shouldn't have posted so late in the game anyway.
    Sorry!
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    The one thing that really gets my goat is the ANA speaks for nurses. THey ignore LPNs or refer to us as if we are good for little more than emptying a bedpan.

    Our education, experience and desire to be great nurses is ignored.

    As LPNs we need to speak up! We need to push the NLPN to become more active in politics, particularly where the BON for each state is concerned. THe problem seems to stem from the fact that there are more RNs than LPNS and we all know how this country works, the one with the biggest mouth is the one and only one heard. Why would RNS want (the ANA) to allow us the opportunities we deserve and maybe loose a job or two for their own.
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    hey..i am in my last semester of the lpn program and i have to say, most that i come into contact to, no offense to rn's and up, but they always have an attitude, like we do not learn enough or etc. i just blow it off, because our instructors (all rn's w/ bsn's or msn's one is a physicians assistant) state that we are going to have almost as much knowledge as they do. our nurse practice act just states what we are allowed to do. i understand that over time, we will learn alot more, and continuing onto rn that we will know even more......but this is not any reason to give us the shaft. i believe that all nurses should be estatic to see new nurses, or nursing students-----less patients for them due to the shortage! all i can say is.....keep your head up...remember the cause!!!

    just thought i would add my 2 cents good luck!

    michelle
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    the question shouold not be who has the most education but rather is everybody's education good enough to perform!

    i know lpns right out of school that are tons more prepared than a variety of rns right out of school. again, it's not the price one pays for their education but the knowledge that individual extracts from that education.

    there is no reason why an lpn can not assess a patient. there is no reason why an lpn can not hang blood products. there is no reason why an lpn can not hang tpn. there is no reason why an lpn.... these physiological consequences of each of these tasks is taught to lpns and they need to be... the rn will often run in spike the bag and leave. it's the lpn performing the nursing care and observation needed, not the rn that spiked the bag. same goes for iv push meds. the rn pushes and moves on, the lpn cares for and observes. and lpns do need to know what to do if "things" fail to go as planned. if lpns didn't, they never would have passed boards and never would have passed the napnes exam.

    it's simply a way for the system to keep the lpns down.
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    Dixiedi - when I first came to this board i posted this thread....http://allnurses.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59993
    oh what to do??? what to do.

    xxoo
    Kate
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    hi guys... mod calling...

    just letting you all know...
    I'm going to cut this thread at or around 50 posts... its been hashed, and rehashed very many times. The horse has been kicked...

    seriously though... it is an intriguing discussion, but, its been done between each and every level of nursing since they started-- may it be LPN vs ADN, ADN vs BSN, BSN vs MSN, MSN vs NP, NP vs PA vs MD. (yes, the last three are grouped.)

    thank you.
    Last edit by Yeti1313LPN on May 19, '04
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    Hi, I am an LPN and have been for almost 2 years, all on a med/surg hospital unit. I have had a few bad experiences (I have heard the nice "but you're not a real nurse!" :angryfire ) but a lot of good ones as well. I have also never had any trouble finding a job and by the time our LPN class graduated 2 years ago, all of the 24 people I graduated with had jobs before graduation! Being an LPN has been very rewarding for me, I feel like I have had great opportunities so far in my career to help many of my patients. I am back in school now in an LPN to ASN program. One thing I will say is, it is VERY hard once you have graduated school to get yourself motivated to go back to school. As an LPN I already make fairly good money and I had to really push myself to go back and it has been hard. I probably wouldn't have gone back to school so soon, but my fiance and I are talking about starting a family soon, so I figured I would get the next phase of school out of the way before we do that. My advice to you would be, if you are 100% certain you want to be an RN, go ahead and do the RN program...just for the simple fact that it is very hard to get back into school once you are out...but if you need to get through school faster and don't mind making only 60-80% of what an RN makes (depending on where you work) then go for your LPN. Oh, and by the way...in the hospital I work in here in Indiana, the only thing I can not do is sign off my charts and do the initial assessment on a newly admitted patient. I can do IV pushes, blood transfusions, assessments, start IV's...etc...I don't think being an LPN has limited me clinically. Good luck!


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