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| No. 50 | 
Jul 18, 2004, 04:45 PM
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Jul 18, 2004 at 06:15 PM by Sheri257
Originally Posted by RN34TX Again, I apologize if indeed I am wrong about your background, but I've seen a lot of bitterness online after someone doesn't make it through the program and your comments and continued participation in EC discussions made me very suspicious.
I appreciate the apology and thank you. You guys are passionate about this issue for your reasons, and I have mine. I can understand why you might think that, but I've never enrolled in EC or attempted to. If you don't want to believe it, no hard feelings on that either. Perhaps we can just agree to disgree, if that's possible.   | | Advertisement Sponsored Links | | | | No. 51 |
Jul 19, 2004, 09:45 PM
Thanks for the encouragement.I have not yet decided my entire route of passage.I have been thinking along the lines of clepping all the trivial courses and getting back on LSU's clinical rotation.Which would actually cut out alot of time.I have been an LPN for twelve years and have mucho clinical experience.BTW in Florida there were folks graduating from a junior college with an Associates degree who were right out of school and made supervisors.Very scary to say the least.And also when orders go out on the hospital floor we all get the same work to do except for the nursing supervisor who tends to everyone else.So as far as the amount of knowledge an LPN of many years has don't even think it is less superior to an RN.There is a lot of experience that goes on in hands on nursing that cannot be learned in college.You have to do like the old Nike ad says, Just do It!
Thanks to all for the good advice.
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Jul 20, 2004, 05:52 AM
ddc- I agree...most people will learn 10 times more in their first 6 months as a new nurse on the floor than they learn in their entire stint in school (as far as clinical learning goes). On my floor, I've had more advanced Med/Surg, Psych, etc. than I care to have...lol. In my experience, I had a greater benefit from the more intense didactic education than I would have with clinical ed. I don't think that's true for everyone, but that's my situation. Thoes without much floor experience can benefit by doing nurse externships (and get paid to get clinical nursing experience). It may not be for everyone, but it's a great option.
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Jul 20, 2004, 11:06 PM
Thoes without much floor experience can benefit by doing nurse externships Explain this in further detail please or maybe start a new thread.Good topic.ddc
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Jul 21, 2004, 06:43 AM
ddc-
Most hospitals have Nurse Extern slots now, to help nursing students matriculate clinically into floor nursing. They are limited in what kinds of things they can do (can't pass meds, admit, etc.), but they do learn a lot during the externship. They are paired with a mentor, like a preceptor and are helped in getting clinical experience while in school. At my facility, one has to be within 1 year of graduating to do an externship, and from what I hear, the pay is a bit higher than the Tech pay. For anyone interested in doing an externship, call your local hospitals and see what they have to offer and what their criteria are for getting a slot. It's a great way to get clinical hours under your belt.
| | No. 55 |
Jul 21, 2004, 11:21 PM
Originally Posted by lgflamini ddc-
Most hospitals have Nurse Extern slots now, to help nursing students matriculate clinically into floor nursing. They are limited in what kinds of things they can do (can't pass meds, admit, etc.), but they do learn a lot during the externship. They are paired with a mentor, like a preceptor and are helped in getting clinical experience while in school. At my facility, one has to be within 1 year of graduating to do an externship, and from what I hear, the pay is a bit higher than the Tech pay. For anyone interested in doing an externship, call your local hospitals and see what they have to offer and what their criteria are for getting a slot. It's a great way to get clinical hours under your belt.
Thanks for the great advice.Its going to be different being an RN after being and Lpn for so many years.I am going to need the extra clinical work.
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Jul 21, 2004, 11:33 PM
Don't underestimate yourself. Despite what others on this thread (and elsewhere) may suggest, you have tremendous experience--you'll be surprised what you already know!
Good luck, and welcome to our happy little party! :hatparty:
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Jul 22, 2004, 05:45 AM
ddc- I wouldn't worry about doing an externship if you are already an acute care LPN. I say this because in my facility, nurse externs can't do as much clinically as the LPNs (except care planning stuff). I was able to do that as an LPN where I work, and the RNs signed off after me (I got more $ for LPN than I would've for an externship, too). I guess it all depends on where your focus of experience is. Most of the EC curriculum is focused on acute care and community health issues. I had a study buddy who worked in a clinic, and whose main experience was in community health (LPNx12 years), and she did just fine. But- if you're planning on working in acute care after you get your RN, and you don't have much experience in that area, an externship could still be the way to go for you so you can get immersed in that field, and can help to keep a job slot open for you when you graduate.
| | No. 58 |
Jul 22, 2004, 11:52 AM
If you go to Excelsior's web site it even tells you CA no longer accepts Excelsior grads to sit for NCLEX . I will tell you this I was on the phone with the TX BNE and they told me that they are considering doing the same thing as CA because there is no clinical throughout the program. Their meeting was this week ,I wish you luck .  Originally Posted by northernnyLPN Hello,
I've just sent in my first payment to start taking classes from Excelsior to get my ADN. When I called the school where I got my LPN, I was told by the director that Colleges are not recognizing ADN from Excelsior college because they do not have a Clinical Component. Is this true, I did call Excelsior and was told that California will no longer accept students from Excelsior to sit for the Boards. But those that are already enrolled will be allowed but no new students. Has anyone had any problems in the past or present with going on to get your BSN from a different colleg? Say Pace University or Stony Brook? Thank you for any information you can give me. I don't want to be halfway through with Excelsior and find out it will be useless to me..
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Jul 23, 2004, 09:28 PM
 Regarding Excelsior and the TX board of nursing Originally Posted by txspadequeen921 If you go to Excelsior's web site it even tells you CA no longer accepts Excelsior grads to sit for NCLEX . I will tell you this I was on the phone with the TX BNE and they told me that they are considering doing the same thing as CA because there is no clinical throughout the program. Their meeting was this week ,I wish you luck .
I was very concerned by your last thread regarding Texas and Excelsior so I called Excelsior and spoke to the licensing/state board division.
They were not aware that TX was reviewing their program until I called them and told them what you wrote on this website. Since these meetings Excelsior has been in contact with the TX BON and I was told that they were reviewing the CA decision and the program iteself but they do not intend to follow suit. She told me that many state boards are talking about CA's recent actions because they did take such a radical stance and make major changes in their licensing policies but reviewing Excelsior at board meetings is not necessarily for the purpose of doing the same thing as CA. All schools get reviewed from time to time and Excelsior is popping up on many state board agendas due to the recent CA decision.
Again, Excelsior told me that there is no cause for alarm because Texas does not intend to make any changes regarding the acceptance of Excelsior grads and that the board meetings regarding Excelsior were very positive.
But keep in mind that I'm only going by what Excelsior has told me. I intend to call the TX BON myself on monday (when I have a spare 2 hours to be on hold due to their "high volume of calls") so I can get the scoop on the outcomes of their meetings myself.
I will post this message on your other thread as well to keep other TX students and grads updated.
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