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| No. 20 | 
Jul 14, 2004, 06:59 PM
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Jul 15, 2004 at 05:12 PM by kids
Originally Posted by DC2RN From what I understood, 12/06/03 was the enrollment date cutoff. That means that if you are an Excelsior graduate from before 12/06/03, you can still get a California license. I enrolled in 10/03. I graduated in May of 2004. From what I understood, I can still get a California license, because I enrolled before 12/06/03. I think all the people who enrolled before 12/06/03 were grandfathered in.
I strongly suggest you call them. As I was given different info when I called.
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Jul 14, 2004, 07:00 PM
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Jul 14, 2004 at 07:10 PM by Sheri257
Originally Posted by kids-r-fun The bottom line is: As of 12/06/03 the Cali BON will NOT issue new licenses to any Excelsior grad for any reason, they will only continue to renew licenses issued before that date.
Interesting info. The board did amend the original order at a subsequent meeting to say the following:
"The following action supersedes and replaces the December 5, 2003, Board action related to Excelsior College.
"Excelsior College graduates, like other out-of-state graduates, must meet the requirements set forth in California Business and Professions Code Section 2736, including supervised clinical practice concurrent with theory, in order to be eligible for examination and licensure as a California registered nurse. This eligibility requirement applies to students who enrolled at Excelsior on or after December 6, 2003."
I don't know if that grandfathers people in before December 6, 2003. But I would definitely call to find out for sure. Kids-r-fun may be right, but who knows.  | | No. 22 |
Jul 14, 2004, 07:30 PM
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Jul 15, 2004 at 05:23 AM by Sheri257
Originally Posted by chris_at_lucas Good luck getting your license as an RN if you have graduated from a school which is not NLN accredited. I wouldn't waste my time with a school that couldn't meet NLN standards. Is this another California trend?
The bottom line is that the NLN accreditation didn't do a thing for Excelsior in California. The only thing that matters is whether the BORN approves the school, and if the program complies with state law. Excelsior didn't.
As far as trends, the California Nurses Association (CNA) sponsored the first nurse ratio law in this country. It's improved working conditions, and that's why tons of nurses are moving here. The BORN has been flooded with license applications and the ratio law has been touted by many nurses on this board.
CNA also successfully lobbied to disqualify the Excelsior program.
If you don't like our trends, no problem. Lots of nurses do. That's why they're moving here.  | | No. 23 |
Jul 14, 2004, 08:27 PM
ok so i'm beng lazy (not checking for myself), how many other states do not accept EC? is it CA, IL only? Also i noticed that it seems that CA won't even accept reciprocity for licensing, is that true of the other states that aren't accepting EC new grads? Just curious because I know of a few EMT's that are planning to go this route, so they can "make bank" doing travel nursing, this seems like an issue they should look into.
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Jul 14, 2004, 09:03 PM
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Jul 15, 2004 at 05:14 PM by kids
Originally Posted by kids-r-fun I just now got off the phone with the lady at the California BON. Anyone can feel free to call for them selves and discuss it, their phone number is 916-322-3350. Choice "0" will get you a live person. I asked several questions preventing several senerios, the answers are below.
If you have an ADN or LPN and attend Excelsior for an advanced degree (RN/BSN/MSN) as of 12/06/03 the Cali BON will NOT accept it.
If you live in outside Cali and hold a license in that State based solely on your being an Excelsior grad, as of 12/06/03 the Cali BON will NOT issue you a license.
If you live in another State and hold license based on the education (ADN/LPN) at an approved school and then attend Excelsior and earn an advanced degree (RN/BSN/MSN) as of 12/06/03 the Cali BON will ONLY issue you a license based on the lower level degree earned at the approved school.
Regardless of the promises any school makes it is up to the student to verify that information with their BON.
Again, I encourage EVERYONE with a question or a doubt to call the Cali Bon at the number above.
Edited to remove information I was given via phone as it conflicts with info on the Cali BON website (and I got different answers on different phone calls)
Thanks for taking the time to notify all of us...I bet you helped many out...reguarding my state (CT) now I know to verify EVERYTHING first.
Thanks
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Jul 14, 2004, 11:18 PM
 Don't Go Thru Companies offering LPN to RN
Like Chris has already posted, there are many companies that will tell you that you can earn your RN thru with no clinicals yada, yada, yada. These companies don't usually tell you that you will have to still pay Excelsior as well. Excelsior has an excellant website. I have downloaded many things from them for free. I have bought some of my books off ebay, because you can find out on the website the exact edition of the book you need. They also have a statement on there not to go through these companies. Rue & Moore are just 2 that comes to mind. Yahoo does have some wonderful groups for support (free like Chris already stated) Good luck to you! ~Robin (working on RN thru Excelsior at the present time)
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Jul 15, 2004, 10:10 AM
I just called the board for CA and the above info is NOT correct. If you are an ENROLLED student on or before December 6, 2003 then you are fine and can sit for boards upon completion of the program as long as you were enrolled on or before this date and remain actively enrolled until completion of the program...hence you will be allowed to sit for boards and get licensed. Now if you enrolled after this date you will have to go by new rules set forth for Excelsior including clinical hours. At this time Excelsior can't offer what is required there fore Excelsior stopped allowing Ca students to enroll after Dec. 6, 2003. Got the word right from the horses mouth...anyone enrolled on or before 12/06/03 can get licensed when they complete the program.
Kim
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Jul 15, 2004, 10:34 AM
The reason why so many distance learning programs offer RN-BSN programs and so few offer LPN-RN or basic RN programs is because EVERY state requires that you have a certain number of supervised clinical hours (the actual number varies from state to state) in your educational program to be eligible to write the NCLEX-RN in that state. So, distance programs that would offer entry RN programs have to figure out some way to assist you to get those hours (which is not easy).
NLN accreditation is optional; but nursing programs must be accredited, or recognized, or whatever it's called in a particular state, by the state BON for you to be eligible to write the NCLEX.
It's always safest, if there are any questions, to just ask the BON in the state you're in (or going to), since their answer is the only one that really matters, anyway!  | | No. 28 |
Jul 15, 2004, 01:48 PM
Originally Posted by kimlpn I just called the board for CA and the above info is NOT correct. If you are an ENROLLED student on or before December 6, 2003 then you are fine and can sit for boards upon completion of the program as long as you were enrolled on or before this date and remain actively enrolled until completion of the program...hence you will be allowed to sit for boards and get licensed. Now if you enrolled after this date you will have to go by new rules set forth for Excelsior including clinical hours. At this time Excelsior can't offer what is required there fore Excelsior stopped allowing Ca students to enroll after Dec. 6, 2003. Got the word right from the horses mouth...anyone enrolled on or before 12/06/03 can get licensed when they complete the program.
Kim
Interesting, that is a the direct opposite of what I was told. I think I will call them again and see what I get told today. | | No. 29 |
Jul 15, 2004, 02:26 PM
I just called them this morning and spoke with them. The man also directed me to their web site and to click under news...it clearly states there that unless you are an enrolled Excelsior student by Dec 6, 03 then the news rules apply, but if you are enrolled and stay enrolled until the completion of the degree program you will be fine to sit for boards. He stated the info you posted above was incorrect. Regardless anyone who wants to know call themselves...get it for yourself right from the source. I did.
Kim
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