CNAs are very disrespectful to LVN, that is me.. - page 2

Hi, I am a new grad..I thought working in like a nursing home is like a team environment..And I thuought CNAs would want to assist the nurse but in reality, in the place I work I get the opposite..I... Read More

  1. by   WickedRedRN
    I am a CNA and an LPN student, will graduate soon. The thing I have learned being a CNA is how NOT to treat your CNA's.

    If you come at me barking orders left and right while I am obviously working with residents, and generally treat me like I am the lowest form of life in the nursing food chain, then no I will not be especially pleasant.

    BUT...if you ask me to do something, offer to help, try to appreciate what I do and actually listen to me when I tell you so and so is having a problem, then I will bend over backwards for you.
  2. by   mel1213
    As a fairly new grad myself when I started working In LTC, my CNA were wonderful for the most part. I gave them a lot of respect, for they have been there longer than I have and knew the residents way more than I did. So I would ask them there advice on things, help them out they needed it. Just because I was an LPN and their supervisor did not mean that I couldnt put someone on the toilet. I never let them feel I was above them or better than them. They are there to help and I dont know what i would do without them. I guess in a sense I gained their respect and I respect them.
    So if I ask one of them to do something for me, they do it.
    There are the ones of course that dont want to do their job and will always be a problem, I do than get involved. Some of them may never respect you until you show them that you are thier boss. But in the same way are a team. I dont go about anything in a mean or screaming way unless of course they are completly out of line.
    So try and build a relationship with them, dont let them bring you down.
    If you were a CNA before than you know that the job is not easy at all.
    Good luck!!!
    :spin:
  3. by   TheCommuter
    I have encountered CNAs that are annoying, lazy, and mean-spirited. However, they are in the minority. Most of my CNAs are pretty good workers.

    Remember that, as the LVN, you do have the power to bring disciplinary action against any insubordinate CNAs. I have never had to write up any CNAs or send them home, but please reserve the right to utilize your supervisory powers if you feel that a CNA is getting totally out of hand.
  4. by   madwife2002
    Can I ask a simple question did you knock and the door and wait to be asked to enter if it was closed?
    I have known RN's who will shout at anybody who dont maintain the dignity of the pt-especially when they are in such an embarrassing situation.
    Maybe the CNA didnt handle the situation appropriatly but as a trained nurse it is up to you to discuss this privately.
  5. by   Bala Shark
    Quote from TheCommuter
    I have encountered CNAs that are annoying, lazy, and mean-spirited. However, they are in the minority. Most of my CNAs are pretty good workers.

    Remember that, as the LVN, you do have the power to bring disciplinary action against any insubordinate CNAs. I have never had to write up any CNAs or send them home, but please reserve the right to utilize your supervisory powers if you feel that a CNA is getting totally out of hand.
    I remember when I was a student nurse working at the hospital..A CNA was sitting in a chair being a sitter..She sat there for maybe 5 hours or so sitting in a chair looking after a patient...When she went to lunch, she asked me who at the time, I had 4-5 patients and I was giving meds, shots, charting, the CNA asked me to give the patient who she was watching a bed bath..Yea, right..And she came back late from lunch..

    Yea, all CNAs must be terrific! There are no bad ones like you all say!
  6. by   phatwensday
    Yea its all about respect. Im a CNA and a new LVN, I been a CNA for about 7 years and the problem i had was the way a LVN or RN aproached me when they want me to do something. If it was a (could you or would you do this or that) when you get a chance (with a please or not ) also when you are done could you please give or do this for me. I would do it with no problem. but dont come and tell me or give me orders to do sometmething in a matter of fact with a tone. This one nuse irritated me as well as others because its the way she asked you to do something, one day she grabbed my arm and ask me did she do something wrong. I guess she seen the expression on my face and i told her the truth(she dont know how to ask for help ) she was a new nurse she wasnt aware she was doing anything wrong but she new not to many people liked her. She lighten up little i talked to the other nurses when negative words were expressed about her, they agreed about her beening new at giving orders and that made things not so hard for her or us. LoriRN2B was right i would of looked at you crazy if you were trying to give meds while Im cleaning or changing a diaper and i liked what Mel1213 had to say it made a lot of sence. See we(cna) have or own duties to do then we have to assist the lvn or Rn when they need help. We are all over worked.But let me say this, you would want your cna to like you,and be in your corner, respect you as a nurse, that would make your job less stressful and you know your patients are well taken care of.
  7. by   phatwensday
    That cna is crazy, she had to be out of her mind. Please tell me Its a joke
  8. by   mirasmommy
    I am only speaking from my own experience. I work in a rural hospital as an lpn, and we get very busy and everyone can get stressed out. I know first hand the hard work it takes to be a cna, and a lot of the time this gets overlooked, people become resentful over being taken for granted. I would be up **** creek without cnas helping me. Please realize that nursing is a team effort and sometimes you have to just step back and realize that peoples remarks may just be a vent to the stress at the moment. Establishing a good rapport with your aids is essential, let them know in words and in actions that they are appreciated. A simple thank you or even helping with baths, vitals, etc. goes a long way. An aid can make you or break you. Seriously. Let go of pride and be humble. It is a win, win situation, the patient benefits, you benefit and the cnas benefit. Many cnas have been doing their jobs for years and know much more than you, accept this and learn from it. Being a nurse is hard work, don't make it any harder on yourself by creating or keeping a wall up with your aids. People are human and sometimes we say what we meant to just think. Please don't forget how extremely stressful ( both mentally and physically and financially) it is to work your butt off as a cna and not feel appreciated. This post is not meant as any disrespect for you a fellow nurse, I know our job is hard also.
  9. by   georgy
    its all abt perception..
    forget the past.. make a new beginning..
    things shall be alrite..
  10. by   georgy
    afterall, theres nothing a smile everyday cannot change
  11. by   georgy
    may be they mite hav had past memmories of rude LVN's..who knows...
  12. by   jamangel
    Quote from Bala Shark
    Yea, all CNAs must be terrific! There are no bad ones like you all say!

    I don't believe anyone is saying that. I think they we're trying to understand the scenario in which it happened. There are really bad CNA's and really good ones and some good ones having a bad day. Yours may have been either having a bad day or they could have been bad CNA's. They were rude without a doubt. I 've had all types of CNA's. What I do know is they have the worst job in nursing (worst meaning dirtiest work without acknowledgment or obvious appreciation).

    I'm not excusing them, but I'm wondering are they like that ALL the time. I've had NA's who felt like I should help them on the floor and when I could I did and when I couldn't I didn't. You can't make them all understand that you can help them with their work but they can't help you with yours. They get to walk right out the door while you're there reporting off, doing count etc.

    I've known CNA's that have "keyed" other nurse's cars, slashed tires etc so we know there are bad people period in ALL professions to include LPN's and RN's.

    No one is blaming you, just trying to understand. From most of our experiences, the CNA's have behaved this way to someone who they feel have wronged them. But they can also have preconceived notions about us being lazy and sorry.

    Just my opinion.
  13. by   Lisa CCU RN
    Quote from phatwensday
    Yea its all about respect. Im a CNA and a new LVN, I been a CNA for about 7 years and the problem i had was the way a LVN or RN aproached me when they want me to do something. If it was a (could you or would you do this or that) when you get a chance (with a please or not ) also when you are done could you please give or do this for me. I would do it with no problem. but dont come and tell me or give me orders to do sometmething in a matter of fact with a tone. This one nuse irritated me as well as others because its the way she asked you to do something, one day she grabbed my arm and ask me did she do something wrong. I guess she seen the expression on my face and i told her the truth(she dont know how to ask for help ) she was a new nurse she wasnt aware she was doing anything wrong but she new not to many people liked her. She lighten up little i talked to the other nurses when negative words were expressed about her, they agreed about her beening new at giving orders and that made things not so hard for her or us. LoriRN2B was right i would of looked at you crazy if you were trying to give meds while Im cleaning or changing a diaper and i liked what Mel1213 had to say it made a lot of sence. See we(cna) have or own duties to do then we have to assist the lvn or Rn when they need help. We are all over worked.But let me say this, you would want your cna to like you,and be in your corner, respect you as a nurse, that would make your job less stressful and you know your patients are well taken care of.
    :yeahthat:

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