Are LPN's/LVN's real nurses? - page 2

Here is a question I have been pondering. Is someone who has their license as a LPN/LVN considered to be a real nurse? How do most Helthcare professionals view LPN/LVN? When I get my LVN license... Read More

  1. by   PeepnBiscuitsRN
    A lot of the programs in MN for LPN's have waiting lists till like 2010 or something - it's because since it's so hard to get into an RN program, nearly impossible here...they figure they go for the LPN and then go right into an LPN-ADN bridge program. Of course you have to have 6 mos expereince as an LPN there as well. It would seem that we're all aiming for RN- I don't know anyone who is just sticking with LPN.
  2. by   CoffeeRTC
    OMG, I don't know how to respond.

    Heck yes they are real nurses.
  3. by   peedyER
    i dont agree with common idea that LPN's stay in nursing homes and are just a notch above the CNAs, LPn is truly a state of mind, it is what you make it. Im an LPN and sure theres certain tasks that i wish i could DELEGATE instaed of DO but i work in the ER i start iv's, hang lines, i work as part of the trauma team in a pediatric hospital(cpr, intubating, emergency decisions...). so no, your not stuck to passing endless meds, and charting i'&o's. do what you want, it all comes down to thinking skills and motivation. im in school now for my RN because the money situation looks better on that side, but i dont think im any less competent as an LPN. yes i run circles around them.
  4. by   Faeriewand
    Hello everyone and thank you for your thoughtful replies. I just don't want to be made to feel less when I get on the job or about my career choice. It looks like a few of you may have had some trouble with that but most have garnered respect in tehir chosen profession. I do want to go on to get my RN after I get my LVN and when I do I will be an experienced nurse already.

    Yeah I don't think this turned into an LVN vs RN discussion and I"m glad because that's not at all what I was thinking about when I started this thread. I just kept hearing my mother's voice with that comment she made and now I have some ammunition to fight that with.

    Thank you everyone for sharing your stories.
  5. by   momof3heathens
    I too, am going through an LPN program. Wea re definitely REAL nurses! As healthcare is changing, so have the responsibilities of nurses. Most LPNS are required to do what only RNs did 20 years ago. The RN's are considered in my state to be "professional" nurses. I suppose that means an LPN equates to a paraprofessional, but definitely still a nurse!

    I will be going on to my RN after, mostly because of what someone else's teachers were implying. Where I live they have cut out almost all of the LPN positions in the hospitals. You can pretty much count on having to work in long term care as an LPN around here. However, there are always a few other options. Where I live there are ALWAYS openings at our state mental hospital for LPNs (which is where I want to work anyway) and there are always doctors' offices, home health agencies, school nurse, and a couple other places to look into. One of my profs has said that she believes LPNs are going to be obsolete in another 20 years. ALot of it has to do with nurses taking on more and more responsibility as there are more shortages. Also changes in managed care, etc., now some nurses can do what only doctors used to able to do, so places want that higher degree.

    To my understanding, the majority of floor nursing you learn in an LPN program. The majority of your clinicals are already done at that point. I've been told that the clinicals you go through in RN, are really just more specialized. You've already learned all the basic nursing....
  6. by   txspadequeenRN
    A-Men sister


    Quote from Marie_LPN
    And let's hope this doesn't turn into another RN vs. LPN thread like some of them do.
  7. by   baby&mommynurse
    Let's see... LVN... Licensed Vocational Nurse. Yup, uh huh... I'm a Nurse.

    I'm not just a Nurse, I am a Nurse. And I'll still be one when I become a Registered Nurse.
  8. by   Tweety
    Quote from Faeriewand
    I just don't want to be made to feel less when I get on the job or about my career choice.

    That will not happen, unless you allow it to happen. Yes, people are going to try to make you feel less of a nurse, or maybe inadvertently make you feel that way not knowing how rude they are.

    But only you have control over how you feel. No one can make you feel anything regardless of what they say. Don't give anyone the power over you.
    Good luck!
  9. by   S.N. Visit
    Although I'm in a student in an ADN program, I'm so excited to be eligible to test for the NCLEX-PN next summer, so I can finally say & feel like "I'm a NURSE". (if I pass of course! )
    I had a similar dissapointing discussion with my mother-in-law about a month ago, she stated how awful and dangerous she thinks it is that LPN's pass meds. She said she thinks only RN's should. I was shocked that she was say such a ignorant thing, after all she was a former nurse (in England). Yes, I set her straight, but her reply was, "Oh, maybe I confused CNA with LPN".
  10. by   Fiona59
    Ask your MIL if she was SEN or SRN. SEN was the equivalent of an LPN. She should know better.
  11. by   busylynn
    YES!!!!!!!!!! An LPN/LVN IS a NURSE!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was an LPN for 15 years in Florida. I worked in a hospital too! I can honestly say that there is only a FEW things that an RN could do that my hospital does not allow LPN's to do like hang blood, give cardiac IV pushes and maybe a couple of other things. I am an RN now and I value every year that I was an LPN. YES,YES,YES, you are a REAL nurse even though some people will treat you like you are not. They are small minded and VERY uneducated!!!!!!!!!! Good luck to you!!!!!!!
  12. by   MDSlady
    Hello...this is a sore subject for me. I am just an "LPN" and let me tell you...I have been in the same facility for 7 years. We have agency "RN's" come in and "Supervise". I can tell you that they call me over half the time because they are unsure of a resident's status. I have heard the daytime supervisor when she is orienting an RN agency person, call her, she can answer most of your questions if you should have any!!!!! I often say, I really should become an RN because I myself and others have told me that I am very good in my field. However, we get that from experience. Most RN's are in the office and we are out on the floor. That is the real nursing world. I would rather be paid less to hold the hand of a dying person or laugh with them daily than get paid the "big bucks" in the office to shuffle paper. When I am out, and I tell people that I am a nurse and they ask me "LPN or RN??" My reply is does it matter?????? I do everything an RN does in my LTC facility except push paper and I LOVE it that way. We are the real nurses......and we should be very proud of it. In my LTC facility it is the LPN's that "RUN" the place and the RN's are in the office doing what???? I love my job and want to keep it that way, HANDS ON!!!!:wink2:
  13. by   celestlyn
    I've been an LPN for 20 years and have always considered myself a nurse. Some RN's don't care for LPN's and will do their best to make you feel like and aid. Other's are great and treat you with the respect you are due. As an LPN, it is your job to conduct yourself in a manner that leaves no doubt that you are a nurse. When asked what I do, I say I'm a nurse. If I were an RN I'd probably say I was an RN, but at this point I see no reason to point it out unless I'm asked. Some people will ask me what the difference is between an RN and an LPN and I laugh and say, "About $15. an hour!" I'll tell them that LPN's do meds, but I don't do some IV meds and I don't hang blood or manage central lines. I'll let them know that I do most nursing procedures. It is an irritation to me that the nurses association (the union) in my state does not recognize LPN's. If we want to unionize, we have to join with the kitchen and janitorial staff to do so. At my hospital the kitchen and janitorial staff has chosen not to unionize, so I always feel like my position is vulnerable.

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