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No. 30
from FNP2B
Old Jun 12, 2004, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by RN4NICU
Salary.com lists LPN at $39,187 (which of course would not include differentials, as that is a benefit) and RN at $50,000, (which is $24-27/hr depending on whether it is based on 8 or 12 hour shifts) so this is probably correct.
Yes it does but thats for the 75th %ile .......the average is 36K ......i was responding to a new LPN grad saying they are going to make 42K out of the gate Why become an RN when you can BANK as an LPN (which reequires less educatioin and less time.)
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No. 31
from RN4NICU
Old Jun 12, 2004, 08:21 PM
Updated Jun 12, 2004 at 08:23 PM by RN4NICU

Originally Posted by FNP2B
Yes it does but thats for the 75th %ile .......the average is 36K ......i was responding to a new LPN grad saying they are going to make 42K out of the gate Why become an RN when you can BANK as an LPN (which reequires less educatioin and less time.)
From Salary.com:
The median expected salary for a typical Licensed Practical Nurse in Philadelphia, PA, is $39,187.
Licensed Practical Nurse
25th%ile $37,493
Median $39,187
75th%ile $42,629
Philadelphia, PA

The median expected salary for a typical Staff Nurse - RN in Philadelphia, PA, is $50,212.
Staff Nurse - RN
25th%ile $46,739
Median $50,212
75th%ile $53,536
Philadelphia, PA
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No. 32
from FNP2B
Old Jun 12, 2004, 08:58 PM

Default LPN= $$$......yeah right
Originally Posted by RN4NICU
From Salary.com:
The median expected salary for a typical Licensed Practical Nurse in Philadelphia, PA, is $39,187.
Licensed Practical Nurse
25th%ile $37,493
Median $39,187
75th%ile $42,629
Philadelphia, PA

The median expected salary for a typical Staff Nurse - RN in Philadelphia, PA, is $50,212.
Staff Nurse - RN
25th%ile $46,739
Median $50,212
75th%ile $53,536
Philadelphia, PA
again thank you for proven my point a new LPN grad is not ,making 42K anually......ie. 25th%ile(meaning less experience) $37,493 that is a 5-6K difference than what the new LPN grad "said" he was going to make. he also said and i quote "most facilites are paying $25 an hour "...do the math if a "LPN makes $25 dollars an hour and they work 40/hr a week they are making an unbeliveble(for an LPN) 52K ANUALLY. So again i post why go to school for 4yrs (preqs. included)for a BSN when one could be done with an LPN program in ....mmmm....I dont know 1yr1/2(preeqs. included) and BANK the same if not more than the average RN.....median for RN's 50,212.

LPN=less education, less time, MORE MONEY!


"A room without books, is like a body without a soul"
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No. 33
from RN4NICU
Old Jun 12, 2004, 09:52 PM

I did not prove your point.
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No. 34
from FNP2B
Old Jun 12, 2004, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by RN4NICU
I did not prove your point.
well thank you for reinforcing(proving) my point. New Grad LPN's are not making 42k out of the gates.....you reinforced(proved) my original posting by presenting the salary.com figures 25th%ile(less experience) 37K anually and for that...........(with tear filled eyes) i thank you

LPN=less education,less time. more money




"Good things come to those who wait, but only the things left behind by those who hustle"
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No. 35
from michelle95
Old Jun 12, 2004, 10:23 PM

he also said and i quote "most facilites are paying $25 an hour
I believe you left something out.

The person actually wrote:

Most facilities are paying 19-25 an hr depending on the shift

To accuse someone of lying is pretty rude.
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No. 36
from RN4NICU
Old Jun 12, 2004, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by michelle95
I believe you left something out.

The person actually wrote:

"Most facilities are paying 19-25 an hr depending on the shift"


To accuse someone of lying is pretty rude.
Thank you michelle. That is the point I was trying to make while this person tried to make me look like I did not know what I was talking about (which is also pretty rude).
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No. 37
from FNP2B
Old Jun 12, 2004, 10:39 PM

let me restate my claim LPN's are not(and if they are it is well experinced LPN NOT NEW GRADS) making 42K dollars anually out of the gates. to much for someone to swallow. than just buckle down and apply yourself and gain more knowledge in order to become an RN and realize its never to late to be what you might have been(RN)
thank you

thread closed
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No. 38
from FNP2B
Old Jun 12, 2004, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by RN4NICU
Thank you michelle. That is the point I was trying to make while this person tried to make me look like I did not know what I was talking about (which is also pretty rude).
I never one time said you did not know what you were talking about......in fact i thanked for your input and for reinforcing (aka. proving) my point
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No. 39
from RN4NICU
Old Jun 12, 2004, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by FNP2B
I never one time said you did not know what you were talking about......in fact i thanked for your input and for reinforcing (aka. proving) my point
I took your response to be sarcastic in nature. If I misinterpreted, I apologize. I was merely pointing out that new grads do not necessarily make the 25th percentile just because they are new grads. Many times over my career, I have seen new grads enter the workplace at just $1/hour less than a nurse with many years of experience and certifications out the wazoo (at a hospital paying at, say, the 60th percentile), yet nurses at the facility across town could all be earning closer to the 25th percentile. Some facilities only differentiate RN and LPN by a couple of dollars per hour. Do I think that it is right for new grads to get the same pay as experienced nurses (or close to it) -- NO!! Do I think that it is right that RNs don't earn significantly more than LPNs, since they bear the burden of higher responsibility -- NO!!! Do I think it is right that staff nurses (whether ASN or BSN) out earn many nurse practitioners to the degree that many nurse practitioners will work as staff nurses because they make more money that way --- NO!!!!! By the way, I can attest to the validity of the last situation, as one of my coworkers is an FNP. It is not that he cannot find a job as an FNP, but that he earns more money as a staff nurse. I think that it is dispicable that his master's degree is not compensated and respected more than that!!
Does not seem that there is much that can be done about it though...any ideas?

One last thing, when examining salaries for nursing, remember that most nurses these days do not work 2080 hours a year (5 8's/week), but work 1872 hours a year (3 12's/week). It makes a BIG difference when calculating salaries.
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