"Just an LPN"....does anyone else get discouraged? - page 9

Hello nurses! I have been discouraged lately...I feel like I am constantly fighting off the stigma of being "just an LPN." When people ask what I do, I always say I am a nurse....they then want... Read More

  1. by   Nursingangel
    I am a LPN student in a small town which also has a RN school. The RN students continusly look down there nose at us. When we get to the clincal sight we jump in and do anything we can to help and learn, but the RN students will say, " We don't wipe butts or give baths that is what LPN's are for." They don't care if the nurse they are working with is a BSN and is "wiping butts" they are to good.Even there instructers look down there noses at us. They assign the RN's students there pts. the night before and so the pick the most intresting pts for them, and then if a new pt is brought on the floor they try and take them too. If the charge nurse on the floor does not stand up to them for us our instructers have to step in and fight for us to get a pt. It is not right that we end up getting stuck with the grunt work and they get the best learning experiaces. The thing about it is that the staff nurses tell us that they would much rather work with us for these reasons. I just don't understand there attiude we are ALL STUDENTS!!!! I mean because they are going for the RN and we are going for our LPN is there really that much differance in the clinical setting we are all JUST STUDENtS and all must learn essancially the same things!!! It also really burns me up that when it comes down to it on graduation day I will have alot more clincal experance than they will! but yet they are to good to "wipe a butt." I hope that when we are both working on the floor as graduates they don't expect me to do there grunt work for them. I also work for HCA, and will have my on pt to do total care on. I hope that the wake up a smell the coffee.
  2. by   waynesbororn
    Quote from Nursingangel
    I am a LPN student in a small town which also has a RN school. The RN students continusly look down there nose at us. When we get to the clincal sight we jump in and do anything we can to help and learn, but the RN students will say, " We don't wipe butts or give baths that is what LPN's are for." They don't care if the nurse they are working with is a BSN and is "wiping butts" they are to good.Even there instructers look down there noses at us. They assign the RN's students there pts. the night before and so the pick the most intresting pts for them, and then if a new pt is brought on the floor they try and take them too. If the charge nurse on the floor does not stand up to them for us our instructers have to step in and fight for us to get a pt. It is not right that we end up getting stuck with the grunt work and they get the best learning experiaces. The thing about it is that the staff nurses tell us that they would much rather work with us for these reasons. I just don't understand there attiude we are ALL STUDENTS!!!! I mean because they are going for the RN and we are going for our LPN is there really that much differance in the clinical setting we are all JUST STUDENtS and all must learn essancially the same things!!! It also really burns me up that when it comes down to it on graduation day I will have alot more clincal experance than they will! but yet they are to good to "wipe a butt." I hope that when we are both working on the floor as graduates they don't expect me to do there grunt work for them. I also work for HCA, and will have my on pt to do total care on. I hope that the wake up a smell the coffee.



    I am so sorry that you are going through such a bad experience. In LPN school and working afterwards I learned a lot more than an RN learns in nursing school. I knew how to draw blood and start IV's. The other students in my class learned how to do these things on my arm because it was not taught in class. I am a person that used to worry about everything someone said. Then I decided that God knows when someone degrades you and puts you down and if you don't take good care of your patients. He see's everything so why should I worry, It is still hard to forget but, God is greater than that. I used to get the worst patients to care for ,and the meanest. I went to the hospital one shift and got my assignment and every told me you won't want this man. He is mean and cuss at you and will throw you out of his room. I went into his room and he started cursing. I said to him "Sir, I would arrpeciate it if you would not use curse words in front of me. This was one of the nicest patients I had ever had. Approach and attitude are both important components in nursing. I have been a DON, ADON, Supervisor, Coordinator and so on. Best of luck to you.
  3. by   km nurse
    Quote from DeniseLPN
    Hello nurses!

    I have been discouraged lately...I feel like I am constantly fighting off the stigma of being "just an LPN." When people ask what I do, I always say I am a nurse....they then want to know if that means "RN" and of course what hospital do I work at???!!!!! I work in a clinic and have been an LPN for several years. UGGGHHH!!! Anyone else have this challenge?
    Denise


    i know exactly what you mean! I have been an lpn for 13 yrs and i still feel like no matter what wisdom you have gained or how much experience you have if you don't have 'rn' after your name it does not count. This is not true all the time. i work in a hospital setting and i have worked with most of the nurses for years. We all get along great but it's usually outside of the hospital ,from people that are not in nursing that i have problems. I have had people ask me why i didnt want to go that extra step and be an rn. Being an lpn isnt always a stepping stone to becoming an rn. there is a place for all of us.... rn's , lpn's and cna's should be a team. we all have the same goal...to make a difference.
  4. by   laichn
    I learned more from seasoned LPNs as a new grad RN than in all three years of college. Don't be discouraged, be proud of who you are.
  5. by   KPOP
    HI THERE.

    HEY WHEN I WAS GOING TO SCHOOL FOR MY LVN IT TOOK ME 1 YEAR INSTEAD OF 6 MONTHS FOR LPN AND LVN MAKES MORE MONEY!

    SO I WOULD TAKE MORE NURSES CAREER THAT HAS MORE EDUCATION AND ALSO IF YOU ARE NOW AN LPN TRY TO GO TO SCHOOL AND TAKE UP RN WITH A BS AND THEN TAKE A MS IN COMPUTER SCIENCE AND A PHD IN PSYCHOLOGY AND ALSO THEOLOGY BUT ALSO TAKE UP SOME EXECUTIVE SECRETARY COURSES OR A CERTIFICATE AND THAT WOULD TAKE YOU SOME LEGAL AND MEDICAL AND ALSO ADMINISTRATIVE SECRETARIAL!

    TAKE ONLINE CLASSES!

    http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/search?...LINE%20COLLEGE

    KATHY
  6. by   km nurse
    [QUOTE=KPOP]HI THERE.

    HEY WHEN I WAS GOING TO SCHOOL FOR MY LVN IT TOOK ME 1 YEAR INSTEAD OF 6 MONTHS FOR LPN AND LVN MAKES MORE MONEY!

    SO I WOULD TAKE MORE NURSES CAREER THAT HAS MORE EDUCATION AND ALSO IF YOU ARE NOW AN LPN TRY TO GO TO SCHOOL AND TAKE UP RN WITH A BS AND THEN TAKE A MS IN COMPUTER SCIENCE AND A PHD IN PSYCHOLOGY AND ALSO THEOLOGY BUT ALSO TAKE UP SOME EXECUTIVE SECRETARY COURSES OR A CERTIFICATE AND THAT WOULD TAKE YOU SOME LEGAL AND MEDICAL AND ALSO ADMINISTRATIVE SECRETARIAL!

    TAKE ONLINE CLASSES!

    http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/search?...LINE%20COLLEGE


    it is mmy understanding that lpn and lvn are the same. It's just called vocational in some parts of the country and practical in others.
  7. by   karencook3
    [I love being a LPN. I had to train one of the RN at my job because she did not have any clinical skills. I thought all nurse had clinical skills. She blamed it on working in a hospital instead of a long-term care facility. I make good money and I love taking care of people. If I decide later on to become a RN, it will only be for job advancement and money. Hold your heads up LPN's, you know we got it going on. :chuckle :chuckle
  8. by   gamegirlkimmy
    I have the utmost respect for all roles and I really think it would be great if being a CNA was a pre-requisite to LPN, and LPN was pre-requisite for RN. I have been all 3 and I really appreciate to contributions each position makes to the patient care team. Each position I held only confirmed that nursing was the career I wanted!
  9. by   nursesherry
    I am an LPN and have faced the same question many times. You do get discouraged and feel like you need to go back to school and prove to those people you are a good Nurse and gain the respect you feel you deserve. I work in a clinic and was making about a dollar more than I made in the hospital. I decided to leave to work PRN at other facilities to get the "big bucks". The Docs at the clinic agreed to bump up my pay to keep me. I now make as much as an RN in the hospital. The Docs accredited it to my work ethic in the clinic. That made me feel very respected as an LPN. They could very easily have replaced me with a MA at much lower wages than I was already making but they wanted me. I still want to pursue my RN, but now, for much different reasons. Do your best as an LPN and people will notice and they will respect you.
    Quote from DeniseLPN
    Hello nurses!

    I have been discouraged lately...I feel like I am constantly fighting off the stigma of being "just an LPN." When people ask what I do, I always say I am a nurse....they then want to know if that means "RN" and of course what hospital do I work at???!!!!! I work in a clinic and have been an LPN for several years. UGGGHHH!!! Anyone else have this challenge?
    Denise
  10. by   NoCrumping
    Quote from Sondra Cash
    I have been just an LPN for almost 36 years.I never had a problem in LTC about a title I worked my way up to ADON.I retired from LTC and went to work in a ER,about 6 months ago.I was floored at the attitude towards LPN'S.In fact just yesterday the RN'S have us wear big red name tags that say LPN'S or RN'S.I just laughed :chuckle because there are only 3 of us in the ER,the cna's get more respect.I do not pay much attention to all this because I like who I am and what I do.If I had wanted to be an RN I would have years ago.I make good money and don't have the responsibilty the Real Nuts (RN) have.Just be all you can be and do the best you can.A title is just a title .
    Sondra
    OK, I wasnt going to get into this one, but now your being just as rude..... "RN=Real Nuts? ... come on.....To be honest, there are alot of lpn's out there who are lpn's bcause they couldnt do the book work to become RN's. Not all, but alot. And since your doing your part to down RN's, I figured I would point that out. In my state, hospitals wont even HIRE an LPN. I guess economical factors take a back road there. Dont get me wrong, you can learn alot from an experienced LPN about pt care, procedures and such, and I am not one to devalue them, BUT in todays healthcare, they are being phased out. In many hospitals LPN's are equal to CNA's who can give po meds. Do I devalue CNA's? Absolutely not. Not everybody is willing to do that work, and most who do it are good at it, and they are a credit to the field. LPN"s deserve respect, and by the same token, SO DO REGISTERED NURSES, DOCS, ETC. There willl always be a pecking order. If you feel devalued, go get your RN, since you complain you "do as much if not more than an RN" get the title, the responsibility,the money, the opportunities, but most importantly, THE KNOWLEDGE behind those two letters RN (REGISTERED NURSE). and by the way "sondra"... this post is not directly in response to yours, but the "rn real nut' thing did set me off.
  11. by   Nova Scotian PN Stud
    Ann Mann, exec. director of nursing in N.S recently gave a seminare on this very topic . The scope of practice is changing so rapidly that the public is not aware of our abilities. We can now give IM's ( which was unheard of years ago) and still not allowed in some facilities. I have been responsible for the patient TOTAL care when other "nurses" have sat back because they didn't have the practice, but the degree...interesting. I am proud to be hands on and will never be embarassed or belittled when we have a major responsibility in the care of our clients. I also get paid very well, so that's all that matters.
  12. by   dallasfan
    Quote from DeniseLPN
    Hello nurses!

    I have been discouraged lately...I feel like I am constantly fighting off the stigma of being "just an LPN." When people ask what I do, I always say I am a nurse....they then want to know if that means "RN" and of course what hospital do I work at???!!!!! I work in a clinic and have been an LPN for several years. UGGGHHH!!! Anyone else have this challenge?
    Denise
    I am sorry Denise for those of us that might be rude and disrespectful to you and other LPNs. It is unfortunate. If I may, though, I would like to let you know about the other side of the arguement. It is a fact that there are many levels of practice when it comes to the all encomapssing term Nursing. I would submit that all of these levels are very important to our patients and good care. The problem comes about as one chooses to become more educated through the various programs that are available. I, in fact, am currently attending school to become an Acute Care NP. It is very difficult for those of us that desire the broader scope of practice to compete with Physicians and PAs, when the belief is out there that a nurse is a nurse is a nurse. Unfortuantely that is NOT the case. Granted there are LPNs that have been on job for 15 yrs who can work circles around RNs and MDs coming out of school, because experience is a very good teacher. Conversely there are RNs who have 15 yrs of experience who could not nurse their way out of a paperbag. I am not offering solutions. If I had the answers I would put them into action. I am simply attempting to give you the other side of the coin.
  13. by   Waslh
    Quote from DeniseLPN
    Hello nurses!

    I have been discouraged lately...I feel like I am constantly fighting off the stigma of being "just an LPN." When people ask what I do, I always say I am a nurse....they then want to know if that means "RN" and of course what hospital do I work at???!!!!! I work in a clinic and have been an LPN for several years. UGGGHHH!!! Anyone else have this challenge?
    Denise
    Denise,

    A title does not make a good nurse. I have had the opportunity to work with some phenomenal nurses who happened to be LPNs. I have watched and learned from many great nurses, specially in the clinical area, who just happened to have the title of LPN. So do not get discouraged, people who are insensitive and do not think before they speak are everywhere, and they do not deserve a response.

    Have a great day!!

    Elizabeth~

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