opinion about nsu shreveport vs panola in carthage... - page 3

I am in the process of trying to make my final decision between Panola College and Northwestern State University in Shreveport. Panola has their online/flex option (clinicals at night and on weekend... Read More

  1. by   jamalik2
    I applied for clinicals @ Panola on yesterday and my ranking score turned out to be a 27.3! I hate that it'll be the end of October or the beginning of November before the ranking list comes out to let us know who got in. As we know, good things come to those who wait:wink2:! I will keep u Panola current students informed!
  2. by   MSCHOCOLATEBARBIE
    Quote from jamalik2
    I have heard not so good news from people who have graduated (1 w/bsn & 2 w/bsn). When I went to talk to the advisors there, they weren't as helpful as the nursing staff/falculty at Panola. I am planning on applying for Panola's online program next year. I passed the HESI entrance exam in May. I even had a counselor come to S'port to actually advise me on her off day! What I am trying to say is that I have good vibes about Panola as opposed to NSU. I think that once you go to any college campus and talk to the staff, you can kind of get a feeling of how they are and how you feel about it. I have even met a few nurses who graduated from Panola and said that they loved it. They would recommend it to anyone that's interested. I know for the people in the S'port-Bossier area, they told me that they would try to place you at clinical sites in Longview, Marshall, and S'port. You will have to do a 2-3 day clinical in Rusk, TX (psych ward) though. Also you are doing 1 class every 8 wks. instead of doing multiple classes during a semester and you do not get a break! You go the whole 19mths. straight through where as the face to face program has the summer months off.
    I truly need to read this message because I felt the same way... I also attend NSU& Southern in Shreveport and they just place me on a back burner... I really want to start at panola in MARCH 2011 do to Im at Wiley doing a Buisness Management program there at the moment but my goals are to apply for clinicals at panola... I have heard so many great things concerning them but I was concerned about how they would do those who are not from Carthage,TX but your information has truly blessed me alot cause I have all the requirements and grades but I just need that confirm from someone that this is how the program will be and jamalik2 your have done that! J. MOORE/ GOOD LUCK AND KEEP ME POSTED ON HOW THINGS GO WITH THE FACE TO FACE CLASSES
  3. by   MSCHOCOLATEBARBIE
    I also attended NSU and I didnt start hearing bad things til i left and went to southern @ shreveport... I just felt like it was too competitive...don't get me wrong; I dont want anything handed to me but at least they can give extra time and concern when its needed and I didnt get that at all... plus I have read alot of Blogs and someone stated that when we do recieve a degree from panola... Hospitals will except NSU grad before panola... maybe so but that needs to be stop as well because I feel all of NSU students can still not know everything but be judge just because of the school they attend... what about those who struggle but strive to get what they have....maybe they didnt get a degree at NSU but does that make them non education just because or be judge because of the school they attend... look at NSU now...half of the students that wanted it bader are gone or either stressed out ready to give up... Now there on probation suspension due to their so stressed they cant even pass the test..."WHAT DOES THAT TELL U..."believe me I know because I was one of them... so for the one that did go the NSU and made it GREAT but dont knock those who want a opinion... a person like that is just for self and dont give a "blank" about others problem... why are they even giving there opinion... because its not answering any question only making it seem as if there's no hope for the next... my name is jonifer and I dont disagree with no ones opinion but if its helpful then that shows me that I need to take the time to look into it for self...
  4. by   quiet_one
    hmm...I haven't really heard anything about the shreveport/bossier hospitals giving preference to NSU grads....I would really want to speak with the specific hospitals before I factor that into which school I attended!

    I will say that my graduating class from panola had no more difficulty getting a job at their hospital of choice than other new grads! I think the main reason there are not as many panola grads at these hospitals is the graduating class size and also many of the students live in texas and aren't even looking in louisiana!
  5. by   jamalik2
    MSCHOCOLATEBARBIE you should look into Panola College. Their entrance exam, compared to the local school"s here in S'port, was very easy. It was on the level of the ACT. Also, the teachers there are very supportive, encouraging, and are willing to work with you every step of the way. I carpool to Carthage once a week for lecture and clinicals are in S'port twice a week. All of that is for level 1! I can say that staff is very mindful of us students from S'port-Bossier in not having us drive to Carthage for every little thing. They are very receptive to LA students with no differences shown.
    I agree with quiet_one when she talked about most Panola students live in TX, therefore, they work in TX. About 80% of my class is from TX and the rest from LA. Everybody that I know plan on working in the state that they reside in. Also, it's harder for TX students to get the paperwork done to work in LA (unless they take the NCLEX in LA) as opposed to LA students getting paperwork done to work in TX.
    Nursing is challenging but doable! Like I stated in my previous posts, their kindness is what made me want to apply to their school. I love it there and wouldn't trade it for anything! If you have any questions, u can email me at jamalik2@hotmail.com. Also, according to SUSLA's and NSU's grading scale.... Panola's is the best!!!!!! If I can be of any assistance, let me know. Good Luck.

    FYI ....A "C"=an "A" in nursing ( u will learn that)!!!!!
  6. by   jesswus
    "Hospitals will except NSU grad before panola... maybe so but that needs to be stop as well because I feel all of NSU students can still not know everything but be judge just because of the school they attend... what about those who struggle but strive to get what they have....maybe they didnt get a degree at NSU but does that make them non education just because or be judge because of the school they attend... "

    Please do not take this the wrong way, as I really am not trying to be rude, but you really need to take an english class before you even contemplate nursing school. That being said, nobody said NSU students know everything, if they did, they are foolish. And yes, people should absolutely be judged on the schools they attend. I fully well expect an employer to hire a Biochemist from MIT before one from LSU with all else being the same. Its called competition, the basis of capitalism which until Obama destroys it is still the basis for our economy. Nothing is easy, and nothing is free. Sacrifice and go to Harvard, when you graduate and get a job before anyone else, good for you, you EARNED IT!!!!!!

    "look at NSU now...half of the students that wanted it bader are gone or either stressed out ready to give up... Now there on probation suspension due to their so stressed they cant even pass the test..."WHAT DOES THAT TELL U..."believe me I know because I was one of them... so for the one that did go the NSU and made it GREAT but dont knock those who want a opinion... "

    Bader? Anyway, remember competition is king in nursing school. ONLY the best and brightest get in, and of those, a fraction make it through. I don't care if you go to Southern, Panola or NSU you will be stressed out! If not, you need to seriously consider the legitimacy of the program. NSU is not on probation, that is false. And, the reason most don't pass NCLEX is the result of the student and preparation for the exam, not the institution they attended-anyone who tells you otherwise is simply foolish or biased, again a lot can be said for personal responsibility. Another poster said it best, peoples lives are at stake, not everyone is going to make it through and be a nurse, and not everyone should for that simple reason.
    Last edit by jesswus on Apr 15, '10
  7. by   jesswus
    "hmm...I haven't really heard anything about the shreveport/bossier hospitals giving preference to NSU grads"

    Look up the NSU/WK partnership program. Regardless of your opinion of WK, they are the leader in healthcare services in this area, and they chose to partner with NSU in hiring nurses, which I believe speaks for itself. These students from NSU are given preference before all others from other schools.
  8. by   MSCHOCOLATEBARBIE
    Quote from jamalik2
    MSCHOCOLATEBARBIE you should look into Panola College. Their entrance exam, compared to the local school"s here in S'port, was very easy. It was on the level of the ACT. Also, the teachers there are very supportive, encouraging, and are willing to work with you every step of the way. I carpool to Carthage once a week for lecture and clinicals are in S'port twice a week. All of that is for level 1! I can say that staff is very mindful of us students from S'port-Bossier in not having us drive to Carthage for every little thing. They are very receptive to LA students with no differences shown.
    I agree with quiet_one when she talked about most Panola students live in TX, therefore, they work in TX. About 80% of my class is from TX and the rest from LA. Everybody that I know plan on working in the state that they reside in. Also, it's harder for TX students to get the paperwork done to work in LA (unless they take the NCLEX in LA) as opposed to LA students getting paperwork done to work in TX.
    Nursing is challenging but doable! Like I stated in my previous posts, their kindness is what made me want to apply to their school. I love it there and wouldn't trade it for anything! If you have any questions, u can email me at jamalik2@hotmail.com. Also, according to SUSLA's and NSU's grading scale.... Panola's is the best!!!!!! If I can be of any assistance, let me know. Good Luck.

    FYI ....A "C"=an "A" in nursing ( u will learn that)!!!!!
    At first I wasn't going to comment back to this...

    "Please do not take this the wrong way, as I really am not trying to be rude, but you really need to take an english class before you even contemplate nursing school."
    1st of all I'm not on here to write an essay. Therefore I'm not on here to worry about how you feel about my writing... And as far as you not trying to be rude... No you were Immature for trying to judge my writing instead of giving you opinion and being done!
    2nd of all as far as me taking english classes; I have been there and done that...
    3rd of all as far as NSU being on probation, that is TRUE! Don't know how things have turned around now for them but I wish NSU the best I don't knock any school!
    And as far as I'm concern if you see any posting of mines please don't reply...
    *** I don't let any school make me; I make the school... That's what I pay them for***
  9. by   MSCHOCOLATEBARBIE
    At first I wasn't going to comment back to this...

    "Please do not take this the wrong way, as I really am not trying to be rude, but you really need to take an english class before you even contemplate nursing school."
    1st of all I'm not on here to write an essay. Therefore I'm not on here to worry about how you feel about my writing... And as far as you not trying to be rude... No you were Immature for trying to judge my writing instead of giving you opinion and being done!
    2nd of all as far as me taking english classes; I have been there and done that...
    3rd of all as far as NSU being on probation, that is TRUE! Don't know how things have turned around now for them but I wish NSU the best I don't knock any school!
    And as far as I'm concern if you see any posting of mines please don't reply...
    *** I don't let any school make me; I make the school... That's what I pay them for***
  10. by   MSCHOCOLATEBARBIE
    Quote from MSCHOCOLATEBARBIE
    At first I wasn't going to comment back to this...

    "Please do not take this the wrong way, as I really am not trying to be rude, but you really need to take an english class before you even contemplate nursing school."
    1st of all I'm not on here to write an essay. Therefore I'm not on here to worry about how you feel about my writing... And as far as you not trying to be rude... No you were Immature for trying to judge my writing instead of giving you opinion and being done!
    2nd of all as far as me taking english classes; I have been there and done that...
    3rd of all as far as NSU being on probation, that is TRUE! Don't know how things have turned around now for them but I wish NSU the best I don't knock any school!
    And as far as I'm concern if you see any posting of mines please don't reply...
    *** I don't let any school make me; I make the school... That's what I pay them for***
    Sorry that message wasnt for you jamalik2 ...was commenting back to jesswus
  11. by   jesswus
    Like I said, I was not trying to be rude. As a graduate of both LSU in business and NSU in nursing, please understand that it is human nature to defend one's alma mater, so nobody on this board should post things about either LSU or NSU and not expect a challenge from me. Again, I am not bashing any school, I think a student should go where they feel the most comfortable, if that is panola, great! Now I want to address your post:

    "1st of all I'm not on here to write an essay. Therefore I'm not on here to worry about how you feel about my writing... And as far as you not trying to be rude... No you were Immature for trying to judge my writing instead of giving you opinion and being done!
    2nd of all as far as me taking english classes; I have been there and done that..."

    Look, I do not have perfect english either. However, your spelling, sentence structure and punctuation is beyond horrible. I just think if you want people to take you serious, you may consider honing in on these skills because you are at about a 7th grade level in this arena.

    "3rd of all as far as NSU being on probation, that is TRUE! Don't know how things have turned around now for them but I wish NSU the best I don't knock any school!"

    Like I said before this is FALSE. I like to have my facts straight before I post information that may be inaccurate, perhaps you should try the same. Follow this link to the Louisiana State Board of Nursing and under NSU for BOTH ASN and BSN programs you will find where it states approval status is FULL! http://www.lsbn.state.la.us/Document...ls/Schools.pdf
    If either program were on probation this would state CONDITIONAL! I wont waste mine or your time by copy and pasting your "knocking" on NSU, but you did.

    "And as far as I'm concern if you see any posting of mines please don't reply...
    *** I don't let any school make me; I make the school... That's what I pay them for*** "

    Look, how can you post a reply to my post and expect me not to reply? That is just silly. I mean no disrespect, but this is a message board. It may not always be warm and fuzzy. If you don't like to be challenged, by all means do not go into nursing.
  12. by   carla1987
    I am in no way trying to knock anyone's opinion of NSU but from me doing my first level of clinical there, it was absolutely horrible! The instructors at this institution do not try to help you in any way shape or form. I have always been a very good student and I know nursing is completely different from other curriculum, but no matter how much effort I put into it, I could not manage to pass one single test. I ended up having to withdraw early in March and I found out recently that the MAJORITY of the class has dropped as well. I talked to a girl a few days ago and although she managed to make it to the hospital she will end up having to withdraw bc she cannot pass the other course for the ADN program. I even found out from talking to former classmates that for quite a few of them this was there 2nd time taking NURA 1100 and NURA 1110. There is even a girl in there for her 3rd attempt!

    I've also been told by several sources that the College of Nursing is under investigation because the program is not producing a lot of graduates. If anyone has the gas money to go to Panola, I would certainly invest in it because NSU's nursing program is absolutely horrible. Another thing I'd like to mention is that if you are an ADN student, they will do everything in their power to get you to do the BSN program or pretend that they do not know much about ADN Curriculum when it comes to advising. A very close friend of mine has to stay at the college longer for pre-reqs bc an adviser recklessly put her into the wrong classes. Now, she is stuck taking Englishes and other pre-reqs again. So, all in all I would say to either try Southern or Panola because the NSU College of Nursing is filled with a bunch of instructors who could care less if you pass or fail and do not even teach!

    In fact, during clinical, I fondly recall having to learn dosage calcs. by myself bc there was not enough "time" to cover it. So, we would not really understand how to do the problems until after they quiz you and you fail it, which is not helpful. All in all stay the h*ll away from NSU's College of Nursing, unless you enjoy being out of thousands of dollars!
  13. by   jesswus
    Wow, I am sorry you had such a negative experience with NSU. The difficult thing about nursing school is the instructors are trying to teach you a different way of thinking. It is called critical thinking and it is a skill that takes practice, some people just never get it. Based on what you said about never passing a single test, I can only conclude that nursing is just not for you. Instructors teach you information, but on a test you have to apply this information. They do this because a patient is not going to tell you what to do to help them, and based on the pt. and symptoms, a barrage of nursing interventions may be necessary. To do the appropriate thing requires critical thinking.

    "Another thing I'd like to mention is that if you are an ADN student, they will do everything in their power to get you to do the BSN program or pretend that they do not know much about ADN Curriculum when it comes to advising"

    This is absolutely true. NSU will only have the ADN program for maybe one more year, after that it will be taken over by BPCC, in fact they are beginning the curriculum for it starting this fall 2010. It is in NSU's interest to have BSN students bc they make more money off them, and they will be staying in the program. I found this annoying as well, but there is a reason, and like it or not, higher ed is a business.

    They really don't teach the dosage calc because it is such basic math. They assume that if you took all your prereqs you should be able to do these simple problems. I'm not sure who your instructors were, but I have a friend in first level now and she said there is plenty of help available for dosage to those who seek it out. She also said after the conclusion of 1110 only five students dropped, but quite a few are currently on the fence for 1100, so I think your numbers may be slightly exaggerated. At any rate, I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavours.

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