Vickie Milazzo course

Aviationurse · Apr 17, 2012

Mine includes VIP CLNC DVDs galore....boxes of ADVANCED CLNC books .....marketing books.....seminar papers..business cards ....template and stationary ..and NO CLNC JOB....i am still paying SALLIE MAE....i did not know about allnurses at that time...

My friend works for the FEDS...no CLNC or LLNC certifications...she is a DEATH INVESTIGATOR... ....and the only RN in our state working in OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL.... she never attended any legal nurse courses...she also do TESTIFYING AND PLAINTIFF expert on the side...aint that something?

:banghead:

lindarn · Apr 17, 2012

If anyone is interested, look up, "Vickie Milazzo", on Google, or Bing. There are at least 5 pages of her and her program, including a large one on, "complaints".

Words like, "fraud" etc, are used in these links. It is worth taking a look at.

As usual, JMHO and my NY $0.02.

Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN

Somewhere in the PACNW

Havin' A Party!, ASN, RN · Apr 18, 2012

If anyone is interested, look up, "Vickie Milazzo", on Google, or Bing. There are at least 5 pages of her and her program, including a large one on, "complaints".
Words like, "fraud" etc, are used in these links. It is worth taking a look at...

Oh, so it's the course providers that get to:

"Take tons of time off to spend with family and friends;

Stay at elegant hotels at the shore, and walk in the warm white sand of a gorgeous beach while sipping our favorite wine!"

Etc.

Huh, and I thought it was supposed to be the course takers. Silly me!

Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN · Apr 18, 2012

I inquired once and saw a $35,000 price tag....what a rip off!

lindarn · Apr 19, 2012

It only goes to show you, that nurses are so disgusted with bedside nursing, that they are grasping for straws to be able to make money with their nursing degree.

I will say again, that it is a disgrace, that VM has taken advantage of nurses who are at their darkest, and most desparate moment, that they will pay anything for a couse that claims a, "Pie in the sky", career.

Yes, you can make money as an LNC. But at the rate that LNC programs are pumping out desparate LNC wannabees, attorneys are inundated with LNCs, expecting to make $200 an hour right out of the gate. I have been told on more than one occasion, the LNCs are a dime a dozen. And they are right.

I don't know what to tell anyone. I would look into other areas of business to get out of bedsie nursing. PICC line nurses are a good idea. Better as an independant contractor. I am afraid if you go in with an infusion company, you will get pushed into an employee role with lousy pay adn benefits, and autonomy.

For you new nurses coming out of school, get whatever experience you can. Find a niche that you like. Try to endeavor to be an independant contractor, not an employee. There are many tax advantages to owning your own business. Nurses have never been encouraged to be independant from hospitals, have always been pushed into the dependant employee role.

That of course, is just what the hospitals want. Try to think outside the box. Perservere to connect with your classmates in school. Think of ways to join together after graduation, and work in a non traditional way.

PTs and OTs are taught in school how to start their own businesses. Nurses in ADN programs are not in school long enough to add these classes to the curriculum. PTs and OTs sacrificed hands on clinical, to be able to add other, "quality of life", classes. They did add mandatory paid internships after graduation to teach the new grads hands on clinical they did not get in school.

Nurses need to push for this for every new grad. You should not have to jump through hoops to get the training you need to be an effective nurse after graduation. You should also not be thrown to the wolves and left to sink or swim. Too many new grads are sinking, leaving the professsion quickly, and a new batch is ready to take their place as soon as they jump ship. Which is exactly what hospitals want. An unstable workforce, afraid to make waves, leaving at the first chance, never staying long enough to effect change in the workplace. It is a scam agains the nursing profession.

JMHO and my NY $0.02.

Lindarn, RN, BSN,CCRN

Somewhere in the PACNW

nurseprnRN, BSN, RN · Apr 20, 2012

ocn, the ana includes several different options that count as "legal nursing," including case management and life care planning. i started in field case management almost 20 years ago, and have had a life care planning business for some years, so that took care of that.

lindarn · Apr 23, 2012

I belong to a Legal Nurse Listserve. There was a recent discussion on the listserve about the, "Legal Nurse Courses", and their efficacy.

An eperienced LNC responded, that she had attended an LNC program, and approached the person conducting an LNC program. She responded:

"I asked one of those course leaders how many of her ~350 attendees in attendance that session would actually “make it” as an LNC. I can’t remember her exact words but it was something to the effect of maybe 1 or 2".

This goes to show that they know that few, if any of the individuals would actually pursue a career as an LNC, and even fewer, would be successful. They are selling a, "pie in the sky", dream to nurses who are desparate to get out of bedside nursing, but cannot go back to school for a graduate degree, or a complete career change. They are looking for a way to use the nursing degree that they already have to make a living, but get as far away from bedside nursing as they can.

It is disgrace that they take advantage of their fellow nurses in the manner that they do. The moral of the story is, let the buyer beware. Think before you spend large sums of money, and/or, take out a loan to attend and complete an LNC program that is more hype than content.

If you need to have quality nursing experience in areas like Critical Care, ER, OB, OR. If you cannot write well, and be able to articulate your findings to an attorney who has probably not taken a science class since they were in the 8th grade, you will not be successful as an LNC.

All of the high priced LNC programs are not going to buy credibility with an attorney.

JMHO and my NY $0.02.

Lindarn, RN,BSN,CCRN

Somewhere in the PACNW

caliotter3 · Apr 29, 2012

I met a woman one time who graduated from a bona fide paralegal program, then could not get hired in the field at all, and ended up working for a temp agency doing the same work as people with limited English skills. She still had student loans to pay. Anyone who attends further education in anticipation of a job, should do so with a clear view of reality.

Aviationurse · May 1, 2012

I had interview for the first time for a CLNC staffing agency since being a CLNC in 2008 and i did not pass the

1. EXCEL

2. MICROSOFT WORD

I passed the typing...the pay was $30 /hr bec i have no CLNC experience despite being an RN x 19 years and Internationally x 27 years....BTW...this has no bennies...I would pay 10 bucks a day on parking and train ride for over x 1 hour ....If i only known this..I would not have taken the VMI course....I know some illegal baby sitters in my neigborhood who are earning about what I am earning even if i was a CLNC thru a staffing agency....

Beware of these staffing LNC agencies...they have no MEDICAL BACKGROUND...the lady who interviewed me told me that she was a PAINTER....

thanks Lindarn and Callioter for your education and input and to everyone on these thread....