Nurses Helping Nurses
allnurses Network: Central | Jobs | Books | Newsletter
allnurses: A Nursing Community for Nurses
Home General News Blogs Articles Students Region Specialty Degrees F.A.Q.
Legal Nursing /

LNCs in Risk Management



Did You Know?
allnurses is the largest community for nurses on the web. We now have over 385,883 members! Join today to network with other nurses, laugh, share, and much more.

Jan 22, 2009 10:07 AM

LNCs in Risk Management

Updated Jan 22, 2009 at 10:08 AM by Katillac

I just wanted to post about an opportunity available for LNCs that I haven't seen mentioned a lot.

I work in risk management as a claims investigator for the organization that administers the professional liability insurance for a group of hospitals and practitioners. When a suit is filed, or when an incident occurs in which the risk management office thinks there is a possibility of malpractive being alleged, I pull the chart, review it, and do whatever research I need to do on the specifics of the case to become conversant in it. Then I interview the involved insured parties (attending MDs, residents, other hospital employees including nurses) to find out what happened. I then write up a report including the interview and my assessment of any breaches in appropriate standards of care as well as what I think the problems are with documentation, with the witnesses, etc.

The nice part about it is that I am a part of the defense, so the people I interview are usually appreciative of my efforts to understand the case. They know that the plaintiff is likely to bring up the same issues I am bringing up because their experts have reviewed the record, too, and the insured know they need to help the lawyers prepare a defense.

I am a nine to five employee, so I don't have the flexibility that some LNCs enjoy, however once I get more experience I will be able to work from home at least one day a week, and I do get all of the weekends and holidays off. I do need to say that the rate of pay is not as high as it was when I was in the clinical setting, but for me the tradeoff is worth it, especially because I don't need to do all of the billing and record keeping.

I would imagine that any insurance company that writes medical malpractice has claims examiners. They would be the people, I would think, who would be in a position to steer you towards a potential employer. Additionally, most facilities have some form of risk management, and a big facility will probably have it's own occurrence investigators, possibly as part of the quality improvement department.

Something to think about, perhaps, for you LNCs that have had a tough time getting a practice going. You could do this for a while to get your experience and then go independent if you wanted to, although in my company there is a reasonable career path; many of the people at the top started as investigators.


Share: Submit Thread to Facebook Submit Thread to Twitter Submit Thread to Technorati Submit Thread to Google Submit Thread to Reddit

Search Tags
None
Top

2 Readers Gave Kudos

 
Advertisement
Sponsored Links
 
Reply
9 Comments
No. 1
from sirI
Old Jan 22, 2009, 10:10 AM

Default Re: LNCs in Risk Management
Thank you, Katillac, for your input. Excellent advice!!
Top
 
No. 2
Old Jan 23, 2009, 01:55 PM

Default Re: LNCs in Risk Management
Did you have any risk management experience before you started working in that position? Any positions I find like yours, they all want experience.
Top
 
No. 3
from Katillac
Old Jan 23, 2009, 04:35 PM

Default Re: LNCs in Risk Management
Originally Posted by lecavalier4 View Post
Did you have any risk management experience before you started working in that position? Any positions I find like yours, they all want experience.
No, perhaps I just lucked out, but I had no experience. I was given a straightforward case to review during the interview, after which I was asked to write a summary, identifying pertinent issues I noticed in the chart, people I would want to interview and what questions I would ask. So I think they got a sense of my ability at that point.

During one of the interviews it was said that they feel they can teach an investigator how to write reports and one can learn about specialty areas one has no knowledge of. They focus more on whether the candidate can generally analyze and communicate well.

Good luck with your search, if this is something you would be interested in.
Top

1 Reader Gave Kudos
 
No. 4
from Bluehair
Old Jan 28, 2009, 05:33 PM

Default Re: LNCs in Risk Management
Thanks for your encouraging post! I just submited an application for a RM position yesterday. Found out today that I got it in just under the wire, they will be scheduling interviews next week. Here' to hoping my LNC training gives me the edge I need to get the position. It sounds very interesting. and I am realizing I am getting to a point in life where the security of a 'job' is appealing.
Top
 
No. 5
from Katillac
Old Mar 27, 2009, 09:33 AM

Default Re: LNCs in Risk Management
Best of luck, Bluehair!
I was surprised that just yesterday I got a call from a recruiter for yet another nurse investigator position. For those of you that are interested in this sort of position, I suggest that you go to your monster.com and careerbuilder resumes and make sure that your LNC is mentioned under your education. If somebody is looking for someone with LNC background, they may put that in their search and you would pop up.
Also, even if the job listing specifies that they are looking for someone with experience, if you shine as a candidate in other areas you may get an interview. Then you have your chance to talk about what you have that compensates for a lack of experience in the specific area.
For example, "Mr. Jones, my lack of experience with OB investigations per se may be of concern to you. However, my background as a midwife and my work with quality improvement with MIDWIVES-R-US have helped to prepare me for a role as a nurse investigator. I've taken the liberty of preparing a report on a fictitious case for you to review." Minus the report, you could use that language in a cover letter.
Whoops! I went a little off topic here. Back to you, Bluehair.
Top

1 Reader Gave Kudos
 
No. 6
from sirI
Old Mar 27, 2009, 10:31 AM

Default Re: LNCs in Risk Management
Once again, Katillac, you've provided excellent advice!!
Top
 
No. 7
from Bluehair
Old Mar 27, 2009, 06:44 PM

Default Re: LNCs in Risk Management
Update: Did not get the Risk Mgmt. job. I'm currently pursuing a job with an insurance company. The LNC kicked me up a notch above other candidates (so they said!), though the position is not specifically claims review. Will see how it goes...
Thanks for the encouragement!!
Top
 
No. 8
from sirI
Old Mar 27, 2009, 06:51 PM

Default Re: LNCs in Risk Management
Good luck, Bluehair!!
Top
 
No. 9
from lilyzhou
Old Oct 15, 2009, 10:47 AM

Default Re: LNCs in Risk Management
Hi, I am lily,I am thinking to get LNC recently, but, my concern is I currently working in a big hospital, and they has risk management, is that possible to work there after i get LNC in order to practice my skills before I start my own business?
Top
 
Reply




Thread Tools


Who's Online
412 members
3,829 guests
4,241

15

Doctors-in-short-supply-responsibilities-for-nurses-may-expa...

8

Less regular sleep for ICU nurses may lead to errors

16

Nurse sends unused medical supplies to needy nations

23

Premature Births Are Fueling Higher Rates of Infant...

6

MRSA Strain Linked to High Death Rates

25

RI hospital fined $150,000 in 5th wrong-site surgery since...

64

Nursing: One of the 6 Thriving Jobs that are Here to Stay???

90

Dad Fights Hospital to Keep Baby on Life Support

12

A nurse can dream...about awesome nursing

17

California Nursing Situation - CINHC's plan to help New...



7

Why am I doing this, anyway?

0

Nurse Heal Thyself

7

My Papa, why I am the nurse I am today.

15

I made it through

11

An angel's gaze

13

A Sister Never Forgets

16

Ruby's Marbles

29

What Do Operating Room Nurses Do?

14

My Little Old Jedi

17

I love this job......

23

"I hear voices"

17

Preventing FRUTI (Foley Related Urinary Tract Infection) in...

23

Error and Attitude

10

It's Just a Shower

6

Searching for the Purpose





Sponsored Links

Currently Reading This Page: 1 (0 members & 1 guests)

Interested in the hottest topics of the week? Subscribe to the Nurse-zine Newsletter.
Enter email address: