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No. 20
Old Aug 15, 2009, 09:46 PM

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No check the stats, the 50% is for Philippine nurses sitting for the NCLEX PN, they include RN - BSN who have failed the NCLEX RN. It is not something to be proud of.
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No. 21
Old Aug 16, 2009, 12:33 AM

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Regardless, they will still need verification of education, and it states that you must have a valid license from your country of origin if you're a foreign graduate. You can bring in a license from West Virginia, but you still also fall under the foreign graduate category and STILL have to meet those guidelines. As I said, California doesn't except all schools in this country even if they have a license in their home state. They still have to meet educational guidelines, I'm sorry but foreign graduates aren't exempt.
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No. 22
Old Aug 16, 2009, 12:35 AM

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The only people I hear take the NCLEX-PN examination are those who already hold a BSN degree, which means they're a Registered Nurse in their country of origin. They exceed the minimum requirements, and THEY HOLD A LOCAL LICENSE. If you're a foreign graduate, you still have to have that local license according to the website.
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No. 23
Old Aug 16, 2009, 06:46 AM

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Wow there is a lot of misinformation here maybe you handle LVN schools here and does not want to lose your 20k students huh? or you just simply hate people reaching their goal faster than the road you took. Anyway... I dont know where to find in the link or in their website the information you are posting. So what if they CA asks for your school you already have your NCLEX PN license in WV... in the UNITED STATES!
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No. 24
Old Aug 16, 2009, 07:34 AM

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This once and for all hopefully will stop your hate and lies.

this is from http://www.bvnpt.ca.gov/pdf/endorsement.pdf

If You Are Licensed as a Practical/Vocational Nurse in Another U.S. State or Territory
You will be eligible for licensure without examination, pursuant to Section 2872.1 of the Business and
Professions Code, provided that you:
1. Present satisfactory proof of a current and valid license as a vocational nurse or practical nurse,
or in an equivalent capacity, by another state, a territory of the United States or a foreign country;
and
2. Took the National Council Licensure Examination for Practical Nurses (NCLEX-PN) or the
National League for Nursing State Board Test Pool Examination for Practical Nurse (NLN), and
passed said examination with a score equal to or above the minimum passing score required by
the Board. (Licensure exams in other countries do not satisfy this requirement unless the country
administers one of the exams listed above.)


WHERE IS TRANSCRIPT OR EDUCATION HERE! THE WV LPN LICENSE SUPERCEDES THAT REQUIREMENT!

A.
Application for Vocational Nurse Licensure (55A-1)
– Complete and sign the “Application for
Vocational Nurse Licensure”.

B.
Social Security Number*
– Business and Professions Code Section 30 and Public Law 94-455 [(42
USCA (c)(2)(C))] authorize collection of your social security number. Applications for licensure will not
be processed until a valid U.S. social security number is received.

C.
Photograph
– In a sealed envelope, include one 2” X 2” front view, head and shoulders, photograph of
yourself. Please sign your name on the back of the photograph. This picture
must be current.

D.
Fingerprint Cards
– See enclosed “IMPORTANT FINGERPRINT INFORMATION". The Board
requires a Department of Justice (DOJ) and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) criminal history
background check on all applicants.
Note: A LICENSE WILL NOT BE ISSUED UNTIL THE BOARD
RECEIVES THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION FROM DOJ.

E.
Fee
– Attach a check for $75.00 made payable to the “BVNPT”. This is a nonrefundable fee that covers
the application process. Do
NOT send cash. If you will be submitting the "hard card" fingerprints
rather than live scan fingerprints, you must also submit the $51.00 fingerprint processing fees.
(See "Important Fingerprint Information" enclosed).

F.
Proof of 12th Grade Education
Attach proof of 12th grade education or its equivalent. A copy of your
high school diploma
or GED certificate is acceptable.

G.
Verification of Licensure
– There are 2 methods available for obtaining license verification depending
on the State Board where you are/were licensed:
1.
Verification of Licensure Form (55A-5) - Send this form to the State Board of Nursing through
which you were originally licensed. You may wish to contact that State Board regarding a processing
fee for completion of this form.
NOTE:
If your original license is expired, you must also send a Verification of Licensure form to
the State Board in which you are
currently licensed and practicing as a vocational nurse.
If you were
originally licensed in the State of California and your California license has expired, you
must send the Verification of Licensure form to the State Board in which you are
currently licensed.
2.
NURSYS License Verification Request Form – If you are licensed in a state that is a member of
the NURSYS verification system, please visit the National Council of State Boards of Nursing, Inc.
website at
www.ncsbn.org to obtain instructions and the NURSYS License Verification Request
Form.

H.
Record of Military Education (55A-4A) – Complete and sign this form only if you qualified for
licensure on the basis of U.S. Military education.

I.
Record of Conviction (55A-6) – Complete and sign
the “Record of Conviction”. Failure to complete
this form accurately may delay the processing of your application.

J.
If you are currently licensed in another state
other than your original state of licensure, please send a

copy of that current license, showing the expiration date.

WHERE IS THE EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND ASIDE FROM PROOF of 12th?
NEXT IS THIS LINK http://www.lpnboard.state.wv.us/

click LICENSURE & ENDORSEMENT BELOW, click LICENSURE by EXAMINATION

INFORMATION FOR LICENSURE BY EXAMINATION FOR
APPLICANTS EDUCATED AS PRACTICAL NURSES OUTSIDE THE U.S.
NOTICE: EDUCATION THAT IS EQUIVALENT TO RN EDUCATION DOES NOT QUALIFY THE APPLICANT TO TAKE THE
LPN EXAM IN WEST VIRGINIA. THE BOARD’S LAWS AND RULES SPECIFICALLY REQUIRE THAT THE APPLICANT
MUST HAVE COMPLETED THE COURSE OF INSTRUCTION IN AN ACCREDITED LPN PROGRAM.
Effective April 5, 2006, the following requirements must be met pursuant to the Board’s Legislative
Rules, 10 C.S.R. 2:
Any applicant who was educated in a nursing program in a country located outside of the United States shall meet the
following requirements for licensure:
1.The applicant must have satisfactory completed a basic nursing education program approved by the appropriate
authorities in the country where the program is located. The Board may request verification of this approval.
2. The nursing education program must be equivalent to the minimum standards prevailing for state board
approved schools of practical nursing in West Virginia at the time of graduation (greater than 50% of total hours in
clinical instruction); and,
3. The applicant shall successfully complete any deficiencies in the nursing program as determined by the Board
(theory and clinical practice) in a state board approved school of nursing;
4. The applicant must provide documentation of English language proficiency by one of the following methods:
a. evidence that the nursing education, text books, and majority of the clinical experience were in English;
b. an original report showing a score of at least 530 for the written exam or 200 for the computer exam on
the Test of English as a Foreign Language (TOEFL)plus a score of at least 50 on the Test of Spoken
English (TSE);
c. an original report showing a score of at least 700 on the Test of English for International
Communication (TOEIC) plus a score of at least 50 on the Test of Spoken English (TSE); or,
d. a VisaScreen certificate.
5. If duly licensed in another country, the applicant shall provide official verification, translated into English, from
the licensing authorities in that country.
IF YOU MEET ALL OF THE ABOVE REQUIREMENTS, YOU MAY COMPLETE THE APPLICATION FORM
AND PROCEED WITH THE EXAMINATION APPLICATION PROCESS. THE LPN BOARD DOES NOT SEND
VERIFICATION OF RECEIPT OF APPLICATION AND TRANSCRIPT. PLEASE ALSO BE ADVISED THAT AS
NCLEX-PN IS A NATIONAL TEST USED BY EVERY STATE BOARD OF NURSING, THERE IS NO MINIMUM
REQUIRED SCORE FOR THIS STATE. ALL STATES ISSUE ONLY A “PASS” OR “FAIL” RESULT


NOTHING I CAN SEE THAT AGREES WITH YOUR INFO!!! I STILL STAND ON MY INFO.....



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No. 25
Old Aug 16, 2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by manzanillajr View Post
Wow there is a lot of misinformation here maybe you handle LVN schools here and does not want to lose your 20k students huh? or you just simply hate people reaching their goal faster than the road you took. Anyway... I dont know where to find in the link or in their website the information you are posting. So what if they CA asks for your school you already have your NCLEX PN license in WV... in the UNITED STATES!

Check the stats, there are only hundreds of Internationally educated nurses who sit for NCLEX PN annually. Now you are talking about 20,000 students. I don't think there are 20,000 PN positions available.

Furthermore, I guess you know more than licensed nurses who post here. Based on past history how board work if there is a sudden influx of internationally trained nurses the requirements will change. There are programs where you could gain admission this fall. I fully support people achieving their goals, I am concerned about patient safety and students be taken advantage.

Show me one school in the Philippines where the US PN NCLEX is over 80% .
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No. 26
Old Aug 16, 2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by manzanillajr View Post
I never stated that there is only one state in the U.S that is providing ATT's for the NCLEX-PN. I just offered the quickest way possible for aspirants. You may take it directly to CA or TX or whatever state but the waiting time is longer than WV. I never said that only WV accepts students from outside U.S. Also, the logic behind the fact that Philippines has no LVN jobs and does not accept LVN's therefore U.S should not hire them is completely off. First of all, its all about the curriculum and the education. It does not matter if the Philippines is not accepting LVN's, are you going to work in the Philippines? You are working in the U.S and as long as you are following the curriculum required in the U.S then it is fine. It is just like bringing one accredited school here and teaching it in another country. It's all the same because the curriculum is the same as when you teach it in the U.S. The only difference is that you pay less because labor is cheap and cost of living is cheap. TESDA a government entitiy is the body that handles LVN's and other none degree courses and training same concept as in here. Philippine Nurses Association is not a body who handles this niether is CHED because PNA is a union and CHED handles universities and colleges not technical schools.
No, you are incorrect,

There are no LPN In the Philippines and there is no nurse accrediting of this program.
There are no standards for the Nurse Educators.
There are no SNFs for the PN to get experience.
There is no track record of the students successfully completing the program and passing the NCLEX.
There are no opportunities for the appropriate clinicals since the Philippines does not have PN level of nursing practice, how can you go to a hospital and get the PN experience when there are no PNs in the country.

Last the Hallmark of a good PN program is many hours in the clinical setting this is part of the education process. You can have the best books and classrooms with the most qualified educators but clinical is critical.

What are your qualifications to judge nursing education, I am basing this on my education and life experience. I personally feel great satisfaction when my kids or people I mentor get ahead.
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No. 27
Old Aug 16, 2009, 10:33 AM

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Guy's I am closing this for a cooling off period

At the end of the day each foreign trained nurse has to meet the state board of nursing requirements and they at the end of the day make the final decision.

The main thing to remember is if not a USC or legal resident then going the LPN route will not work as it will not meet US immigration requirements
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