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Mar 25, 2009 05:31 PM

Struggle to get license in Oklahoma


Hi everyone!
I am foreign educated nurse from Belarus. In order to get permission for NCLEX-RN exam--I had to pass TOEFL-ibt with total score 83 and sreaking part score--26.
I took TOEFL iBT 6 times and always my speaking score was 24,even though my total score is 92 (when 26 is required for -ONLY- for OK) For some reason--Toefl people believe that my speaking is 24--period...
One year later,I decided to get an approval for NCLEX exam from a different state. I pass the NCLEX-RN exam with 75 questions!
Now, I still can not work in Oklahoma because of my speaking score.....
It is just frustrating...

Help!!!!!!


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Old Mar 25, 2009, 06:14 PM

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Looking at the requirements you can do IELTS so may want to consider that instead of TOEFL

See page 4 on this http://www.youroklahoma.com/nursing/endorforeign07.pdf
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Old Mar 29, 2009, 12:39 PM

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First, welcome to the United States. I have tremendous respect for anyone who comes to this country from another, particularly because we are so very different. It takes a lot of courage.

Now. I can tell from your writing that although your comprehension is very good, it might be difficult for others--patients, colleagues, physicians--to understand your written and spoken English. Errors are made even between native English speakers.

I would suggest that you get into one (or more) situations, classes, conversation groups, anything, and speak only English. Encourage others to help you with pronunciation, etc. Before you know it, you should be able to bring up that score and give to Oklahoma the wonderful nursing skills I know you have.

Don't give up--just get better at English!

Christine
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Old Mar 31, 2009, 10:39 AM
Updated Mar 31, 2009 at 10:41 AM by RN2009-Belarus

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Thanks! The thing is --I took every possible English course available in Oklahoma, I spent two years in college back in Chicago, I worked as a PCTech for 6 months( before we move to OK) in the hospital and I finished Nursing Refresher Course from Oklahoma University----I don't see anything else that may help me get 2 points in speaking.....
The only one option left---- IELTS exam....
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Old Mar 31, 2009, 10:57 AM

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It is a matter of practice, practice, practice.

Sounds like maybe you are in the Oklahoma City area, so there should be lots of resources there.

See if your public library has a literacy program--sometimes they have volunteers who come in just to have conversations to help spruce up accents, pronunciation, use of idioms, like that.

Try to speak only English, even if you are at home with your family. You can all speak English together--and correct each other's pronunciation.

It's clear that you are thinking in English and understanding English, even the complicated stuff that will be on nursing exams. Your issue is being understood by people with whom you need to communicate: patients, colleagues, physicians, etc.

Good luck to you....
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Old Mar 31, 2009, 02:03 PM

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Your issue is probably a heavy accent what many eastern europeans have, and sometimes with that accent there can be a big understanding problem.
Maybe you can focus on that a bit, if my suspicion is true. And I think the suggestion to speak english 24/7 is an excellent one. You'll might hear a difference in a few weeks time.

5cats
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Old Apr 08, 2009, 03:05 PM

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HI neighbor ! More then in one way....
I am ukrainian and in TX. I am RN . So why would not you endorse that other licence?
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Old Apr 09, 2009, 01:09 PM

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Hi! I am glad that you are here!!!
I can start my endorsement only when we move to TX--I must be TX resident and have TX ID. Moreover--TX doesn't accept CGFNS nursing evaluation, they ask to sent all my documents again from my Belorussian nursing school for their own evaluation. Every state has different requirements. We actually are moving to TX in 2011. I guess-- I have to wait...
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Old Apr 09, 2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RN2009-Belarus View Post
Hi! I am glad that you are here!!!
I can start my endorsement only when we move to TX--I must be TX resident and have TX ID. Moreover--TX doesn't accept CGFNS nursing evaluation, they ask to sent all my documents again from my Belorussian nursing school for their own evaluation. Every state has different requirements. We actually are moving to TX in 2011. I guess-- I have to wait...
Texas do accept CES full course by course from CGFNS and if you have taken their exam then they can re use the documentation already submitted for CES. The issue is looking at it regardless the certificate must be issued within 12 months and I am sure they will accept the same for endorsing as they do for application by exam

The Board accepts the CES from the Commission on Graduates of Foreign Nursing Schools (CGFNS), the Educational Records Evaluation Service, Inc. (ERES) or the International Education Research Foundation, Inc. (IERF). The CES must be dated within one year of issuances by the certification organization.

http://www.bon.state.tx.us/olv/examination.html
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from KoshkaBuba
Old Apr 09, 2009, 04:55 PM

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I have done CP program with CGFNS because at that time we lived in michigan and mi accepts both CES and CP certificate.We were moving to TX when I was approved to sit for CP exam. So then when i passed it, instead of applying for TX board and reevaluating my education again(more time and I don't want to deal with CGFNS again EVER!) i recevied MI RN license and endorsing it to TX , so I have temporary TX licence right now.
And yes CGFNS wanted my school to send the papers again to them since they didn;t have some hours separately which was OK for CP progam but not OK for CES. You know how long it will take to recieve anything from Ukraine again... SO I said what the ...... eat my money for CES and i am not doing this again. It took me 4 years to deal with CGFNS with their CP and I am fed up with them!But if you can wait then do the CES service.
Did you have to pass CP exam? or what kind of exam did you have? For what state?
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