retrogression (sorry again) - page 2

We now know that retrogression has started for EX Visas (Schedule A) and that lobbying is taking place with the hope that bills will be passed into laws in November 2006 and if not then in March or... Read More

  1. by   suzanne4
    Quote from adelebucky72
    Hi Suzanne!
    Apologies first, it is months since I was last on, and it seems I only use it when I have a problem!!!! Sorry!!!!
    Anyway, me and Ann are in the same boat. My file completed on the 7th Sept and was sent to the embassy, 3 weeks after Ann, so was waiting til Ann heard something then I would be right behind her! But, yesterday I discovered the 'retrogression' and I feel like I have been punched in the face! Why had nobody told me? I have sold my house etc. living in rented and due to move out.......long long story!
    So, I am ringing the embassy in the morning to gets some answers (hopefully) but, I was wondering Suzanne, in your very wise opinion , what do you think will be the longest time we will have to wait? ANY advice you can give would be MUCH appreciated!!!!
    Thank you!
    Oh, PS: Ann, I will let u know how i get on, will ring u if I find anythin out!
    Where were you born? That would be my first question, but if your file was completed the beginning of September, then there is an excellent chance that you have a visa number that was already assigned to you. We have been talking of the retrogression for months and months, this is nothing new at all.

    If you were born in the UK, then there will be more visas available for you. You just need to sit tight.
  2. by   adelebucky72
    Quote from suzanne4
    Where were you born? That would be my first question, but if your file was completed the beginning of September, then there is an excellent chance that you have a visa number that was already assigned to you. We have been talking of the retrogression for months and months, this is nothing new at all.

    If you were born in the UK, then there will be more visas available for you. You just need to sit tight.
    I was born in the UK. Your reply has give me some hope, when I ring tomorrow, gonna ask if they have assigned me a Visa number. My I-140 was completed on the 7th Sept, was waitin patiently for packet 4! Really fed up with it all! Thought I was going to be there for New Year! It has been 2 years since I started this, on my own, no agency! I paid for my husband and sons visa, but all the other costs have been covered by my employment!
  3. by   suzanne4
    Quote from adelebucky72
    I was born in the UK. Your reply has give me some hope, when I ring tomorrow, gonna ask if they have assigned me a Visa number. My I-140 was completed on the 7th Sept, was waitin patiently for packet 4! Really fed up with it all! Thought I was going to be there for New Year! It has been 2 years since I started this, on my own, no agency! I paid for my husband and sons visa, but all the other costs have been covered by my employment!
    You have me confused, you atate that your file was completed in September, and then another where your I-140 was completed on September 7th, they are two very different things. If you are waiting for the interivew, it means that you have completed the DS-230, etc.

    If you had your file completed in September, then you have a visa number that is assigned to you. And you can easily be in the US by New Years.

    But be careful on how you post it, at this point, the I-140 has nothing to do with anything, when your actual file was completed does. The I-140 is only the initial petition and is only the first step for those that are reading this.
  4. by   english_nurse
    suzanne,
    sorry if i am going over old ground but does the priority date have anything to do with whether or not retrogression will effect an individual then, or is it down to how far along in the process you are at the time the visas are being issued as for some reason some of the nurses seem to think that having a certain priority date makes it safe for them.
    i know it mentions priority dates on the website but its as clear as mud to me
  5. by   adelebucky72
    Quote from suzanne4
    You have me confused, you atate that your file was completed in September, and then another where your I-140 was completed on September 7th, they are two very different things. If you are waiting for the interivew, it means that you have completed the DS-230, etc.

    If you had your file completed in September, then you have a visa number that is assigned to you. And you can easily be in the US by New Years.

    But be careful on how you post it, at this point, the I-140 has nothing to do with anything, when your actual file was completed does. The I-140 is only the initial petition and is only the first step for those that are reading this.
    Sorry Suzanne, I get confused very easily, especially at the moment! Yes, u r right, I meant my DS-230, and my families! Anyway, I have just spoke to the Embassy, and they state they recieved my case on the 22nd Sept, and that it takes 6-12 weeks for the Embassy to contact me. It is apparently 'open', but has no number assigned, but thats where the 6 - 12 weeks comes in! I asked was I going to get stuck in some giant backlog, and she didnt say yes (or no for that matter!) but just give it the normal waiting time! So what do u think........?
  6. by   Tanvi Tusti
    Quote from Silverdragon102
    Hi Suzanne

    Do you know on which months the quarters falls and visas are released?
    The schedule A visa retrogression happened in the "first quarter of the 2007 financial year - 10/01/06-12/31/06", according to something I read on an immigration law website, so I think that must mean the first quarter falls at the beginning of October and new visas are released in January 2007, have no idea what that means for us though.
  7. by   Silverdragon102
    Quote from Tanvi Tusti
    The schedule A visa retrogression happened in the "first quarter of the 2007 financial year - 10/01/06-12/31/06", according to something I read on an immigration law website, so I think that must mean the first quarter falls at the beginning of October and new visas are released in January 2007, have no idea what that means for us though.
    Hopefully good thing for us that are waiting
  8. by   lawrence01
    I wish you guys all the luck.
  9. by   Silverdragon102
    Quote from lawrence01
    I wish you guys all the luck.
    thanks Lawrence

    How's things going at your end?

    Anna
  10. by   Tanvi Tusti
    Quote from Silverdragon102
    Hopefully good thing for us that are waiting
    My understanding of the whole thing is that the 50,000 Schedule A visas have all but run out. The only way of getting one of them now is to get a visa number assigned to you by the end of November (a visa number is assigned by your local embassy when you get a date for interview). This category of visa will cease to exist, probably in December '06, when nurses and physios will be bundled into EB3 category, which is currently backlogged 4 years.
    When the next round of visas become available in Jan 07 there will probably little change in this backlog because the sheer numbers needed to reduce it substantially are too high. This retrogression affects all chargeablilty areas, unlike the last one in 2005 which only affected pic countries. If you look back at archived visa bulletins, EB3 for chargeability areas other than China, India, Mexico and the Phillipines didnt actually retrogress until July 2005, this didnt impact much on UK nurses because by then the Schedule A visa category had been introduced. Now, however is a different story. ALL areas in EB3 are backlogged and when the Schedule A has dissapeared we will be put into the aforementioned EB3 category.
    I think its going to be a case of waiting for the new immigration bill to be sworn in, which allows for unlimited visa numbers for nurses. When this will happen is anyones guess. Hopefully not too long
    Last edit by Tanvi Tusti on Nov 6, '06
  11. by   suzanne4
    Quote from Tanvi Tusti
    My understanding of the whole thing is that the 50,000 Schedule A visas have all but run out. The only way of getting one of them now is to get a visa number assigned to you by the end of November (a visa number is assigned by your local embassy when you get a date for interview). This category of visa will cease to exist, probably in December '06, when nurses and physios will be bundled into EB3 category, which is currently backlogged 4 years.
    When the next round of visas become available in Jan 07 there will probably little change in this backlog because the sheer numbers needed to reduce it substantially are too high. This retrogression affects all chargeablilty areas, unlike the last one in 2005 which only affected pic countries. If you look back at archived visa bulletins, EB3 for chargeability areas other than China, India, Mexico and the Phillipines didnt actually retrogress until July 2005, this didnt impact much on UK nurses because by then the Schedule A visa category had been introduced. Now, however is a different story. ALL areas in EB3 are backlogged and when the Schedule A has dissapeared we will be put into the aforementioned EB3 category.
    I think its going to be a case of waiting for the new immigration bill to be sworn in, which allows for unlimited visa numbers for nurses. When this will happen is anyones guess. Hopefully not too long
    Sorry, but I do not agree with you at all. There are new visas that come out each quarter, and if your country does not have a backlog of people waiting for a visa, then you will not be retrogressed, other than just a delay. Visas for the UK are not backlogged. There are more visas than there are applications for them if you were born in the UK.

    If you were not, then you may be subject to prolonged waiting. And if you look at any information out from any of the attorneys offices that address this regularly, they say the same thing that I am.

    The issue is that there is a great number of applications from certain countries, much greater than the number of visas issued for that country.
    Remember that visas are country specific when they are released. They do not go into a general pot for all.
  12. by   Tanvi Tusti
    Quote from suzanne4
    Sorry, but I do not agree with you at all. There are new visas that come out each quarter, and if your country does not have a backlog of people waiting for a visa, then you will not be retrogressed, other than just a delay. Visas for the UK are not backlogged. There are more visas than there are applications for them if you were born in the UK.

    If you were not, then you may be subject to prolonged waiting. And if you look at any information out from any of the attorneys offices that address this regularly, they say the same thing that I am.

    The issue is that there is a great number of applications from certain countries, much greater than the number of visas issued for that country.
    Remember that visas are country specific when they are released. They do not go into a general pot for all.
    Hi suzanne,
    thanks for making that point, but I still dont understand how UK born nurses will avoid this retrogression. The UK is included in the "all chargeability areas other than those listed" I assume, which is suffering a 4 year backlog, or is it that each country within that category has its own little pot that isn't shown on the bulletin that is published. If thats the case, why isn't there any direct reference to each individual country in the visa bulletin? The implication from the visa bulletin is that if your country isn't mentioned then its grouped within the "all chargeability areas" band.
    Its very confusing and to add to the confusion I have been told that I will probably be affected by retrogression even though I was born in the UK. Its a minefield out there!
  13. by   adelebucky72
    Quote from Tanvi Tusti
    Hi suzanne,
    thanks for making that point, but I still dont understand how UK born nurses will avoid this retrogression. The UK is included in the "all chargeability areas other than those listed" I assume, which is suffering a 4 year backlog, or is it that each country within that category has its own little pot that isn't shown on the bulletin that is published. If thats the case, why isn't there any direct reference to each individual country in the visa bulletin? The implication from the visa bulletin is that if your country isn't mentioned then its grouped within the "all chargeability areas" band.
    Its very confusing and to add to the confusion I have been told that I will probably be affected by retrogression even though I was born in the UK. Its a minefield out there!
    I agree with you completely! I have been completely confused with the whole situation (which I admit doesn't take much at the moment!) but this whole retrogression talk has put me in utter turmoil!
    So.......if what Suzanne is saying is right, and it usually is, I shouldnt have a great wait for my interview, just the standard wait time? Oh, Suzanne, u have made my day!!!! I am keeping my fingers (and toes!) crossed!

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