Nurse Charged with killing patients - page 3

Nurse 'tried to kill patients' By Valentine Low, Evening Standard 28 April 2004 A hospital nurse was so obsessed with "ruthless efficiency" that she tried to kill four elderly patients to... Read More

  1. by   Chunter
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    Last edit by canoehead on Jun 23, '04
  2. by   swhyte
    This must be a rather frieghtening experience to those patients. But could anyone who suppose to be caring for sick people be so callous? Not to metion a ward sister who suppose to be setting examlpe for others. I know where I work all narcotics has to be signed and witnessed administration of the drug by two people where was the co-signee when all of this suppose to have taken place ?
    sounds shoddy to me. If the nurse is found guilty of all these allegations she must be prepared to face the consequences. Lets hope its not so.
  3. by   CliveUK
    Quote from JudithwA
    No blame should be put on her but the nurses who decided her regime of a caring, nurse who didn't suffer fools gladly was not to their liking. They might have to work too hard!!!
    Excuse me?! So some vague group of "other nurses" are to blame for this woman attempting to kill her patients? I think you may well have lost a bit of perspective on this one. No wait - make that "completely lost perspective". You would support a would-be murderer over the whistleblowers who brought her activities to a halt?

    The words "warped" and "moral compass" come to mind.
  4. by   carcha
    I am so angry at this woman bringing the greatest profession in the world to shame like this. I must however confess that many times when a nurse is inappropriate in her/his actions or behaviour it is difficult to know WHO to turn to. Was there a policy in place to let her colleagues know who to turn to?. Perhaps they doubted what they heard or saw. While some of them may share a small percentage of the blame our profession is still based on a system of hierarchy, certaintly in the UK and it must be difficult to go through your chain of command when the commander is the culprit. No excuses here just thoughts I'm having as this whole thing has thrown me, as an english nurse for a loop. Our thoughts here are with victims and their relatives. Shame on her!
    Last edit by carcha on Jun 25, '04 : Reason: wrong word
  5. by   karenG
    It would seem she was trying to solve the bed shortage single handed!! However, I dont think killing our patients is quite the way to do it!! make them better, send them home is much more my style!

    on a serious note.. it is sad that this happened and that there are nurses out there who do harm their patients. I'm not sure how you prevent it, just thankful there are other nurses out there prepared to blow the whistle.

    Karen
  6. by   Rhoresmith
    How very sad, for all those patients families. So much trust is put upon the nurse and we are counted on to keep peoples love ones as safe as possible and to keep them comfortable so they can die with dignity. I know I am only a student nurse but I have worked in the medical field on and off for 20 years and I have always said once I lose my compassion and it just becomes a job I am outta here. I also feel sorry for her family they have to be devastated also, but I also think 5 years is that really long enough?
  7. by   concernednurse135
    I have got to say I totally agree with JudithWA... you obviously have been following the case very carefully and have seen it for what it really is!



    I have been following this case through the media coverage both nationally and locally to that area.

    I understand from this that there was a ward battle going on, one of the key witnesses in the case actually admitted in court that he has lied on his police statement in which he accused this nurse of laying a patient flat to die.. as it turns out she was not even on shift when the alleged offence occured... you tell me thats not vindictiveness.

    I understand that all the patients were either DNR or were in for TLC only.
    In the two cases she has been convicted of the drugs were prescribed by doctors and was the minimal starting doses of diamorphine... I dont know about elsewhere in the world but here there has to be two people to administor diamorphine and each one is accountable for that administration. In the NMC code of conduct it says that each nurse is accountable for their own actions and to say that another member of staff pushed you into giving the drug is no form of defence... yet this is what is reported to have happened in court.. nurses were saying she bullied them... well sorry thats no defence as far as I am concerned... they are just as liable as her and should be serving this sentance with her.

    Also in the media coverage it has said that no nurses reported what they see to be attempts at killing patients, to anyone at the time it happened.... whatever happened to clinical incident forms?... or speaking to managers... the whole thing stinks of bullying, and bullying which has gone to the extremes.

    Why has this nurse been jailed? what has she done wrong?
  8. by   JudithwA
    Never heard of miscarriage of justice!!! The list is endless
  9. by   JudithwA
    Quote from CliveUK
    Excuse me?! So some vague group of "other nurses" are to blame for this woman attempting to kill her patients? I think you may well have lost a bit of perspective on this one. No wait - make that "completely lost perspective". You would support a would-be murderer over the whistleblowers who brought her activities to a halt?

    The words "warped" and "moral compass" come to mind.
    Lost no perspective at all, am not warped and am full of honest morality. Maybe you should think about your own. Know all facts unlike you!
  10. by   JudithwA
    Who? You?!!!!
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  12. by   nightingale
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