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No. 20
from redranger
Old Apr 19, 2009, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Nurse!Nurse!Hello? View Post
I would hazard to say that there are very few Americans who consider the Philippines to be anything like "the 51st state." Most Americans probably can't even find the Philippines on a map! There are also plenty of other countries with citizens fluent in English. And if the Philippines is hanging onto the values and culture of the 1950's...they sure have a lot of catching up to do!
Catching Up. USA/Canada/England and other Western Cultures are the minority not majority as far as World Population. Don't assume just because it's the way or custom where you live it's the same around the world

USA granted Philippines Independence after WW2, and they could of easily been another state just like Hawaii. Check out Bataan Death March and you will see how much US and Philippines Troops suffered during WW 2.

I for one couldn't find Philippines on the map a couple of years ago, I took a trip over there to see a house my cousin had built, and I had little to no knowlege of PI.

If you talk to any older people men who served in the Military in your area, You will find they know a lot of PI. More than likely they fought or trained over there. My Neighbor trained in PI for the Korean War.
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No. 21
from redranger
Old Apr 19, 2009, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pinkroyalty18 View Post
after months of hibernation,i have to speak up....

seriously,why is is that the same people here are talking about the same thing over and over against Philippines? dont you ever get tired with your "usual speech"? just wondrin... Is there something new that u can talk about PI aside from "substandard education,low NLE and NCLEX passing rates,incompetent nurses,blah blah blah".. It has been months like that since I last visited and it came no surprise at all to read the same comments from the very same people...
I think more Philippines would speak up, but it's not their nature or culture to argue or disagree in public places or forums.

Maybe we should discuss why so many U.S. Trained Nurses quit or can't handle working in USA, and to me the blame should go on the Education System that is followed in US.

In my opinion, they don't train or prepare US Nurse for real life and working conditions they will be working in.

Philippines Nurses are trained to work in conditions they drive away US nurses in USA.
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No. 22
Old Apr 19, 2009, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by redranger View Post
I have read on this board about Nursing Programs in USA where people say in their Clinicals they clean bed pans or bath patients, Now that is crazy.

Why is that crazy?
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No. 23
Old Apr 19, 2009, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by redranger View Post
I think more Philippines would speak up, but it's not their nature or culture to argue or disagree in public places or forums.

Maybe we should discuss why so many U.S. Trained Nurses quit or can't handle working in USA, and to me the blame should go on the Education System that is followed in US.

In my opinion, they don't train or prepare US Nurse for real life and working conditions they will be working in.

Philippines Nurses are trained to work in conditions they drive away US nurses in USA.
US nurses leave the profession because of how they are treated. Not because in your opinion they are not prepared for 'real life.' I know I wanted to work in the US but it used to frighten me on how easy it is to fire someone and the lack of support in most cases there are for nurses. In some states the ratio of nurse to patient is bad and to work in a nursing home and be responsible for over 30 patients is hard. How can you dispense medication to patients in the time window allowed is beyond me with no allowance to emergencies and I think is more open to errors.

I feel, reading the Philippine forum, that for some there are some schools that are just there for the money and do not provide proper training and clinical experience, this is what I am reading. We read facts that less than 50% pass the local exam, schools that fare bad like this should be looked at and standards need to be improved. The Philippine nurses many years ago had a good if not excellent reputation unfortunately we are seeing more complaints against them especially in the press which is bringing it down for the Philippine nurses that are excellent and caring now.
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No. 24
from redranger
Old Apr 19, 2009, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Silverdragon102 View Post
Why is that crazy?
Cuz, That is the bulk of their training........
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No. 25
Old Apr 19, 2009, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by redranger View Post
Cuz, That is the bulk of their training........
Then I suggest you ask this question in the student nurse forum and see what they have to say regarding their training. I am not seeing this
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No. 26
from redranger
Old Apr 19, 2009, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Silverdragon102 View Post
I feel, reading the Philippine forum, that for some there are some schools that are just there for the money and do not provide proper training and clinical experience, this is what I am reading. We read facts that less than 50% pass the local exam, schools that fare bad like this should be looked at and standards need to be improved. The Philippine nurses many years ago had a good if not excellent reputation unfortunately we are seeing more complaints against them especially in the press which is bringing it down for the Philippine nurses that are excellent and caring now.
Are their Nursing School in PI just for the money, Sure there are, I don't remember ever seen a post where someone has argued that it doesn't exist. But it gets thrown almost daily in this forum section

I am sure there are Nursing School in many other countries that are thier just for the money, and I am sure their are some in USA.

Should that fare less than 50% in PI should be looked at and standard apporved, I agree but it is what it is in PI.

In PI people have to be a certain age or certain height or skin complexion to get a certain job, Is it fair or right, Of course not but it happens and it is the way it is.

I am amazed that ads for jobs say: Applicant must be between 21 to 25, Light Complexion, a minimum height and please include photo in Application.
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No. 27
Old Apr 19, 2009, 08:18 AM
Updated Apr 19, 2009 at 08:25 AM by pinkroyalty18

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culturally,yes..We are not argumentative in nature and its a taboo to argue publicly but lemme be an exception to that...i know a LOT of Filipinos here are just lurking,probably having some headache reading the same thing over and over again from the same people whom i do not know what their true purpose/agenda for doing so. I should know because I stopped posting here because of this very main reason and because of these same old people.....


The last time I checked, a lot of the foreign nurses protested against some members here..But too bad.....things haven't changed a bit... Business as usual for these people...
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No. 28
from redranger
Old Apr 19, 2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Silverdragon102 View Post
US nurses leave the profession because of how they are treated. Not because in your opinion they are not prepared for 'real life.' I know I wanted to work in the US but it used to frighten me on how easy it is to fire someone and the lack of support in most cases there are for nurses. In some states the ratio of nurse to patient is bad and to work in a nursing home and be responsible for over 30 patients is hard. How can you dispense medication to patients in the time window allowed is beyond me with no allowance to emergencies and I think is more open to errors.
So all these exist and are part of Nursing in USA.

Maybe it's just part of being a Nurse, Either you can take it or you can't, is it the weeding process

Why don't educators have them prepared for what they are going to face in "Real Life"
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No. 29
from redranger
Old Apr 19, 2009, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Silverdragon102 View Post
Then I suggest you ask this question in the student nurse forum and see what they have to say regarding their training. I am not seeing this
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There was a thead in Texas Section about a certain "XXXXXX Nursing Institute" and the students were complaining about people cheating on tests and not being kicked out, and the bulk of their clinicals were bathing patients, It seems like the thread got pulled to another section

But you don't see me or others saying "US Schools are infrerior" becasue of a few.

Just like some people dislike Police officers because their are a couple bad eggs in the mix. It's not fair and wrong to label all just because of a select few.
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