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Feb 16, 2006 12:29 PM

most recruiters r clueless

Updated Feb 16, 2006 at 12:33 PM by owura143

... because when u call them and ask about petitioning/ sponsorship program in their instutions most of them give stupid answers, plus, most of them sound very mean. Like " Nooooooo!!! we don't sponsor. Bye." That's sick.

Anyway, does anyone know of a hospital in Maryland, DC or virginia that sponsors nurses?


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from ZASHAGALKA
Old Feb 16, 2006, 12:37 PM

Default Re: most recruiters r clueless
Originally Posted by owura143
... because when u call them and ask about petitioning/ sponsorship program in their instutions most of them give stupid answers, plus, most of them sound very mean. Like " Nooooooo!!! we don't sponsor. Bye." That's sick.

Anyway, does anyone know of a hospital in Maryland, DC or virginia that sponsors nurses?
Most recruiters care about how much money they'll make off of you - not you yourself.

Key distinction, there.

~faith,
Timothy.
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from RA4LIFE
Old Feb 16, 2006, 02:47 PM

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yes i agree with you strongly.
am having thue same problem here in pa. calling them is waste of time and energy.
you can filll the forms on line or pick up the forms at the hospital. even with that they call you for an interview and after they get to know of your work eligibility they turn you down. its hard but still trusting God for a miracle.
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from suzanne4
Old Feb 16, 2006, 10:50 PM

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Biggest problem that I can se right off from the start, you are using the word "sponsor" and that has old, terrible memories that are brought back to life. That was what was used when "slave" contracts were still available with the temporary work permits, that thank goodness are no longer available. A hospital required a staff of three just to keep up with all of the paperwork.

Next, are you asking anything else, or is that the first thing that you are asking? Being on the other side, it would be a big turn-off if a nurse was only interested in my facility if we would do the petitioning.

You need to sell yourself to the facility so that they won't mind filling out a few forms for the attorney. Think of it in those terms and you will have much better luck with things.
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from starbin
Old Feb 17, 2006, 06:44 AM

Default Re: most recruiters r clueless
Originally Posted by suzanne4
Biggest problem that I can se right off from the start, you are using the word "sponsor" and that has old, terrible memories that are brought back to life. That was what was used when "slave" contracts were still available with the temporary work permits, that thank goodness are no longer available. A hospital required a staff of three just to keep up with all of the paperwork.

Next, are you asking anything else, or is that the first thing that you are asking? Being on the other side, it would be a big turn-off if a nurse was only interested in my facility if we would do the petitioning.

You need to sell yourself to the facility so that they won't mind filling out a few forms for the attorney. Think of it in those terms and you will have much better luck with things.
Hi Suzzane,
The word "sponsor" might be an old form but even now it is widely used in practice by both employers as well as applicants .
The problem about visa sponsorship is more obvious than you are saying..probably it is more in east coast...I wrote to almost 40 hospitals(in NYC, Long Island and NJ), many of those hospitals replied-"unfortunately we do not sponsor visa". I had mentioned my visa status in both e-mail and resume but I hadn't asked them about whether or not they would sponsor. I personally visited quite good number of hospitals. I also talked to the recruiters on phone, When I said I am a foreign graduate...the answer would be the same- "Do you have a work authorization?" I told I need the hospital to file for my petition -then they would reply-" I am sorry, at this time we are not sponsoring visa".
I found very few hospitals who were ready to petition but they also had a 3 year-long contract in exchange of sponsorship. Some of the hospitals who called me for interview were very far and impossible for me to commute.
It is very difficult to find a hospital to petitin your visa.....it is not easy...especially when you have to choose a fixed location....
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from suzanne4
Old Feb 17, 2006, 09:26 AM

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Right away when I hear that they are not "Sponsoring Visas" -- they are still under the old information and horror stories that existed in the past. If you knew even half of it, you would understand completely. And I can't blame them. But they are dealing with old information.

If there is someplace that you really wish to work at, contact the Director Human Resources directly. And explain that petitioning now invloves only signing two letters or so, and that your attorney can provide all of the information for them. But speak to the Director, not a secretary or a clerk, or even the nurse recruiter there. They do not have the responsibility to give approval on this.
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from lawrence01
Old Feb 22, 2006, 07:52 AM
Updated Feb 22, 2006 at 07:59 AM by lawrence01

Default Re: most recruiters r clueless
Originally Posted by owura143
... because when u call them and ask about petitioning/ sponsorship program in their instutions most of them give stupid answers, plus, most of them sound very mean. Like " Nooooooo!!! we don't sponsor. Bye." That's sick.

Anyway, does anyone know of a hospital in Maryland, DC or virginia that sponsors nurses?
Yes... that's what I'm experiencing right now. Very depressing...
They seem not keen anymore on "sponsoring" foreign RNs (even w/ those who has complete documents) and I've noticed they are focusing their energies on recruiting Out of State RNs and even retired RNs. I wonder what happened back then?? A few years ago they were "sponsoring" left and right. They got "burned", maybe? So the trend now is they want those who already are in the US. Now, I can't blame those who did agency. Seems like there is no way but thru agency. We just have to find the right ones and I'm glad there are those who recommend good ones. It's not the same as talking directly to the hospital though.
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from lawrence01
Old Feb 22, 2006, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RA4LIFE
yes i agree with you strongly.
am having thue same problem here in pa. calling them is waste of time and energy.
you can filll the forms on line or pick up the forms at the hospital. even with that they call you for an interview and after they get to know of your work eligibility they turn you down. its hard but still trusting God for a miracle.
Yes, it's REALLY HARD. I know what you mean by needing a miracle. COntacting a facility directly for a petition, even if you already have the all the proper documents seems like finding a needle in the hay stack. THey all have the same answer.
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from CseMgr1
Old Feb 22, 2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ZASHAGALKA
Most recruiters care about how much money they'll make off of you - not you yourself.

Key distinction, there.

~faith,
Timothy.
THANK you. The last recruiter I dealt with called me UMPTEEN times a day in order to remind me to do things in which I had already taken care of before my last assignment. But when I broke my contract, he ceased to acknowledge that I even existed any longer and would not return my phone calls or e-mails when I asked him to mail me a copy of my pre-employment physical. They don't give a flying damn about us, THAT'S for sure!
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