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  1. by   ZASHAGALKA
    About the only positive thing you can take away from the Senate's current behind closed doors CIR package is that they are at least starting to talk about it.

    The final product, however, is likely weeks if not months away and might not look nearly like the Senate's current version. Remember, the provisions in last year's Senate CIR bill that got all your hopes up ended up being precisely what tanked the measure from becoming law because the House couldn't agree to even debate from that starting point.

    The House is different now and lead by a Democrat from California that gets her support from organizations like the California Nurses union, CNA. American nursing unions are not exactly pro nursing immigration. That might well affect the position of the House Speaker and she will likely be very influential in constructing the House's response to the Senate's CIR.

    The point is that this is only the beginning of a bumpy ride for CIR and the only thing to take away from the process at this point is that at least, it is beginning.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Last edit by ZASHAGALKA on May 26, '07
  2. by   ann h
    this statement was under the last visa bulletin
    It shoud help RNs with PD after June 2005



    E. EMPLOYMENT-BASED VISA AVAILABILITY DURING THE COMING MONTHS
    The current level of demand in many of the Employment-based categories has been much lower than anticipated. As a result, the June cut-off dates have been advanced significantly in an effort to maximize number use under the annual numerical limits. At this time it appears likely that there will be additional advances during the coming months.
    All readers should be aware that such cut-off date movements should allow for action to be finalized on a significant number of Citizenship and Immigration Services adjustment of status cases. Once that level of demand begins to exceed the supply of available numbers it will be necessary to make “adjustments” to the cut-off dates. At this time is in not possible to estimate when this is likely to occur, but it is expected.
  3. by   suzanne4
    Help nurses with a PD before or prior to the cut-off date of June 2005. Not with a PD date after. And again, this movement is for all that are under the EB-3, it is not specific for nurses.

    What many of you are not realizing is that there has been a significant wait for the green card for most under the EB-3 status. Nurses have been fast-tracked around them for the past three years, but that is what is on hold right now.

    The movement to before June 2005 does not even go into effect until next Friday, the Bulletin comes out several weeks to notify you as to what is planned to happen. They are not going to be able to review everyone that is pending before the next bulletin comes out. And if it comes out on the 10th, it means that it has to be put together before that date, they do not do it the day before. This is the point that I am trying to get across to all of you.
    Last edit by suzanne4 on May 26, '07
  4. by   ann h
    I think we all know that it is not just for nurses we know a teacher who is is in the same situation as us waiting for his EB3 PD.
    But it does say
    At this time it appears likely that there will be additional advances during the coming months.
    We know that it if the next visa bulletin adds on a few months they will not look at these files until July 1 and then it may still take some time to get an interview.
    Fingers crossed we will be in the US before we go into UK winter.
    If not life is for living and you just have to get on with it.
    I do value all you help and advice suzanne
  5. by   FutureUSRN
    The bad thing about the existing immigration system is that any employer can file a petition for a permanent immigrant worker eventhough that worker is not likely to qualify for a visa.

    One classic example is when an employer file a petition for a nurse who passed CGFNS but has not passed any English exams yet. The nurse gets interviewed but due to lack of Visa Screen, he/she was told to submit it within one year. One year passed, still can't pass the English exam, then a visa number is wasted. Multiply that case and there you got it, a whole lot of wasted visa numbers.

    These wasted numbers are the what we call "unused visa" that we are asking to be recaptured and be used.
  6. by   mpoova
    Quote from FutureUSRN
    The bad thing about the existing immigration system is that any employer can file a petition for a permanent immigrant worker eventhough that worker is not likely to qualify for a visa.

    One classic example is when an employer file a petition for a nurse who passed CGFNS but has not passed any English exams yet. The nurse gets interviewed but due to lack of Visa Screen, he/she was told to submit it within one year. One year passed, still can't pass the English exam, then a visa number is wasted. Multiply that case and there you got it, a whole lot of wasted visa numbers.

    These wasted numbers are the what we call "unused visa" that we are asking to be recaptured and be used.
    Is it SO? I do not think it is bad for all!
  7. by   suzanne4
    I do not think that is an issue at all. I am sure that the US Government could make the rule effective that all most possess the Visa Screen Certificate in hand when the initial petition is submitted. They have been very fair in my opinion to permit the petition to be filed.

    And most that have been able to pass the CGFNS exam, or the NCLEX exam, can usually pass the English exams. It just takes practice.

    Currently, the VSC needs to be submitted when the nurse goes for the actual interview with the US Embassy when being submitted thru Consular Processing, and as soon as they can get it for the Adjustment of Status.

    On a whole, there are not that many that did not pass the English exams by the time that they go for their interview. Definitely not enough to make a dent in the number; this is not the only place that recapped visas come from, far from it. There are not 90,000 nurses that did not pass the English exams and that made it thru everything else.

    Think about it, most agencies would not even consider starting the paperwork until they are sure that their invested money is going to be used properly.
  8. by   english_nurse
    dear suzanne
    bless you, dont you get a little fed up of repeating yourself so much, it must drive you nuts
  9. by   suzanne4
    Quote from FutureUSRN
    The bad thing about the existing immigration system is that any employer can file a petition for a permanent immigrant worker eventhough that worker is not likely to qualify for a visa.

    One classic example is when an employer file a petition for a nurse who passed CGFNS but has not passed any English exams yet. The nurse gets interviewed but due to lack of Visa Screen, he/she was told to submit it within one year. One year passed, still can't pass the English exam, then a visa number is wasted. Multiply that case and there you got it, a whole lot of wasted visa numbers.

    These wasted numbers are the what we call "unused visa" that we are asking to be recaptured and be used.
    The majority of nurses do not get petitioned until they actually pass the NCLEX-RN exam, as employers want to see that passed. You are only seeing nursing homes and some agencies petition with just the CGFNS exam. And when the nurse interviews, you can tell from speaking with them what their English skills are like before even starting the process for them.
  10. by   suzanne4
    Quote from english_nurse
    dear suzanne
    bless you, dont you get a little fed up of repeating yourself so much, it must drive you nuts

    Feel like a broken record sometimes. But unfortunately, there are those that read only these forums, and need to make sure that the info out here is correct.
  11. by   jonRNMD
    Quote from english_nurse
    dear suzanne
    bless you, dont you get a little fed up of repeating yourself so much, it must drive you nuts
    hopefully she doesn't get fed up....we all need her help whether we are still in nursing school, just graduated from nursing school, passed the foreign licensure exam, passed the nclex, applying for visa screen and so forth....she is a great help for foreign nurses who are trying to get to the US

    thanks Suzanne!
  12. by   Silverdragon102
    Quote from jonRNMD
    hopefully she doesn't get fed up....we all need her help whether we are still in nursing school, just graduated from nursing school, passed the foreign licensure exam, passed the nclex, applying for visa screen and so forth....she is a great help for foreign nurses who are trying to get to the US

    thanks Suzanne!
    I don't think she will give up offering advice but if people try searching for the answer first it does help as many times the same questions are getting asked and some even admitting they can't be bothered to search
  13. by   english_nurse
    :yeahthat:

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