Maryland NCLEX - page 2

guys, could i ask for your experiences in applying for Maryland State NCLEX? Thanks...:smilecoffeecup:... Read More

  1. by   ghillbert
    Why would you apply for CA when there is no chance of getting a license there without SSN? It's just a waste of money, because you will have to pay application fees to both CA and then MD for licensure.
  2. by   schatz13
    hi Ghilbert!

    I've talked to someone in an Agency bound to Maryland.. They advised me to choose another state instead of Maryland due to delay in the process of my CES.. and be endorsed in Maryland after taking and passing NCLEX.. you see Ghilbert, my goal right now is to take and pass the NCLEX.. afterwards, i'll process my documents in Maryland by endorsement..
  3. by   5cats
    If Marylands requirement for foreign trained nurses is CES you will still need it.
    You will always be treated as foreign trained and meet board requirements. This is sth people fail to understand, for instance New York State will allways want a CVS it doesn't matter if you're allready licensed in 51 States. And it also doesn't matter if you passed NCLEX, they give a damn if you don't meet their educational requirements.

    So better double check BON requirements in the State where you intend to work.

    5cats
  4. by   schatz13
    hei 5cats..

    Let me see if I got your message correctly.. You mean.. Though I am able to take and pass my NCLEX using the California state, still i would have to process all the requirements that Maryland needs? that include the IELTS, CES, fees, fingerprint cards.. you see 5cats, that occured to me already.. I am after the length of time that i have to allot in processing my NCLEX application.. As I've said earlier, my goal right now is to take and pass NCLEX..and surely i will process my CES, IELTS and all other requirements after passing NCLEX.. :wink2: but for now, NCLEX application is more important for me..

    Thanks for your advise..
  5. by   Silverdragon102
    I really can't understand what the rush is to take the exam.

    You are correct though in understanding what 5cats has said, you have no license to endorse and you will always be treated as a foreign trained nurse and have to meet requirements. Why fork out more money? Retrogression is not going away any time soon so why not just apply to Maryland and meet their requirements from the start. Guess I am trying to understand when waiting time for Ca is about the same time as CES
  6. by   suzanne4
    And what is the big rush? It just makes no sense at all when you are looking at years before you will get to the US if planning on the green card. And if the agency was speaking of the H1-B visa, then they left off some rather important information for you. Specifically that you must hold a license in the state where you would be working as well as have a Visa Screen Certificate in hand, and that means passing the English exams as well.

    Not sure if you are aware of this little caveat; suggest that you also take a look and see if Maryland has any other specific requirements if you are going to try to endorse there. Quite a few states are putting new items into play. Florida will not permit a foreign nurse to endorse there if they do not have experience first in the US for at least two years. VT has added in additional requirements as well for those that went thru CA for initial licensure.

    You also will not have a license to endorse since you do not possess a SSN#, all you will have is a letter. So you will be required to still complete all of the requirements for Maryland as well before they will look at your application.

    And the cost for licensure in CA is about $200 and this does not include the exam; only licensing fees and fingerprints.

    It is up to you to decide what you want to do, but all of us are telling you otherwise. Suspect that this agency is just giving you poor advice. It will also take longer to get permission to sit for the exam for CA then it will take to get the CES completed.
  7. by   kit25
    Perhaps the agency would want to file her I-140 already. Delaying the I-140 would put her back the very long line for E3 visa. Though there is no visa available, it is just wise for her to prioritize this since there are more and more nurses applying for E3 and the line is already clogged. You can choose to endorse to MD at a later time after passing NCLEX but you have to pay the price for that.
  8. by   suzanne4
    There still is no reason to rush, if it takes an extra few weeks it is not going to make any difference in the scheme of things. One is still looking at probably more than 7 years or so to get the green card. CA does not issue a license so there is no sense in going thru them in the first place. It takes longer to get approval from CA to sit for the exam then it does to get the CES completed and sent to Maryland by a couple of months as well.

    And it is for the EB-3, the category for the green card.

    E-3 is for those that are citizens of Australia and is strictly a treaty visa, and happens to require the VSC as well as license for the state where the nurse is going to work.

    And even if there is rush to get the exam done, it still does not even guarantee that one is going to be able to get the green card ever, also the fact that the agency may not be in business when the visa time would occur and then everything gets cancelled out as well.
  9. by   kit25
    Quote from suzanne4
    There still is no reason to rush, if it takes an extra few weeks it is not going to make any difference in the scheme of things. One is still looking at probably more than 7 years or so to get the green card. CA does not issue a license so there is no sense in going thru them in the first place. It takes longer to get approval from CA to sit for the exam then it does to get the CES completed and sent to Maryland by a couple of months as well.

    And it is for the EB-3, the category for the green card.

    E-3 is for those that are citizens of Australia and is strictly a treaty visa, and happens to require the VSC as well as license for the state where the nurse is going to work.

    And even if there is rush to get the exam done, it still does not even guarantee that one is going to be able to get the green card ever, also the fact that the agency may not be in business when the visa time would occur and then everything gets cancelled out as well.
    I agree that California will take you longer to sit for the exam than doing the CES. So it is better to take the Md route if you haven't started with Ca.

    Hundreds of EB-3 visa is being filed everyday. There is only a minimum number of visa available each year for each country. A day of delay will certainly make a difference.

    Everything that we do poses a risk. If your goal is to work in Md then you have to take that risk and there is no guarantee that you will be able to get a green card in the near future. But I tell you, nothing is certain in this world and everything changes. No one can tell what's going to happen in the future. Go on your dreams and don't let anyone shatter your hopes. No one is guaranteed to live upon sunrise tomorrow but still we believe. As long as you are breathing don't let anyone dampen your spirit. It's all up to you. GOD bless your plans.
  10. by   suzanne4
    What you are not realizing is that it takes more than six weeks before a petition is even submitted. Attorneys do not complete in just a day or so and submit them. So even if one gets the exam done a few weeks earlier, it is not going to make one bit of difference in the long run other than throwing out $200 and nothing more than that.
    Attorneys also batch the petitions as well, they do not complete one at a time in most cases and then submit them individually. This is not how it is handled in the US.

    If an employer is not going to be around in seven years or so, then everything will be cancelled out. And if the goal is to work in Maryland, there is nothing to say that they will not change their requirements in the next few months as well as make them more strict and many other states are doing.

    And it is actually thousands of EB-3 petitions that are submitted all of the time, since the EB-3 is for most classifications and other professions. And from around the world and also for the majority that are in the US under the H1-B visa as well.

    A few weeks is most definitely not going to make any difference when you are talking of 5 years plus at the very minimum. Also passing of the NCLEX exam is not going to get someone an employer any sooner. And that is needed to be able to submit for the I-140 and also written verification from the actual BON as well, not just proof on the computer that one has passed. So in the scheme of things it is always better to take the time and get things done correctly the first time.

    There is absolutely no reason for anyone to just throw out several hundred dollas to get the exam done earlier, it will not make one bit of difference.

    Add in the fact that CA will not issue a license without a SSN# and one will be waiting for more than a month to get their results, when with Maryland they will receive it in just a couple of days.
  11. by   kit25
    Time is gold and every minute counts. A day or two would certainly make a difference. The Maryland Board of Nursing is the only sole authority to change licensure process and requirment for Md. state and not from anybody else. During the 90's a state would require a foreign nurse to possess a CGFNS certificate before they would even require you to sit for the NCLEX. Today, you can take NCLEX anytime around the globe without a CGFNS certificate for most states. To get a CGFNS Certifcate you have to pass the CGFNS qualifying exams and an English proficiency requirement.

    It's up to you to decide which route to take. And I think the issue here is about Md NCLEX and not about immigration/retrogression. Please let us all stick to the original topic. Good luck to you.
  12. by   suzanne4
    There is no such thing as the Maryland NCLEX as a start. It is impossible to apply directly for it as it is for any other state. One applies for licensure as an RN and then they require approval to sit for the NCLEX exam.

    You were the one that posted that if you could get the petitioning process started a few days earlier that it would make a favorable point in the nurse's favor. This is having to do with immigration, and not licensure. So I am sticking to what was being discussed. And the actual subject of this thread was going for licensure in Maryland and nothing to do with immigration or the retrogression as well.

    Questions for you then:

    1. CA does not issue a license without a SSN#.
    2. CA sends results by mail and it takes upwards of one month to get results.
    3. Maryland uses the CES report and takes less time to grant permission to sit for the NCLEX exam in most cases.
    4. Results are available in just a couple of days.

    Which route would you select based on only the above?
    And it has nothing to do with retrogression or immigration at all. That was never brought into the equation at all by me from the start, but from your standpoint.

    That is why it does not make any difference if one takes extra time to have to take the English exams first, they are still needed in the long run no matter which route the nurse takes, it is not something that is needed just for licensure purposes.

    That is why going thru the state where one wishes to work is the route that one should always begin with when selecting a state, then go from there. Even more so if one has the idea that they may qualify for the H1-B visa, this visa actually requires a license in the state where one wishes to work, you cannot use another state and then plan to endorse later on, the actual license is needed right from the beginning. Another reason why state selection should be based on where one wishes to work.
    And if CA is going to take longer in most cases, why should someone go thru there when extra steps are also needed to be able to get licensed in the new state since endorsement is out of the question since there is no license to be endorsed; just no benefit to it at all from any way that you look at it.

    We are all entitled to our own opinions and this is why I have stated what I have. And any state is free to change their requirements at any time and we are seeing more and more change them, especially when one has become licensed first in another state and then wishes to get a license in the new state when they have trained in another country. VT has changed their requirements recently, and specific to those that went for licensure in CA, and Florida has instituted new changes as well. And no state is required to give advanced notice of any changes that are planned. Again this has nothing to do with what Maryland or any other state required in the 90s or until just a few years ago before the NCLEX exam was offered all over the world. It was not until the past five years that things opened up and even for Makati, just in the past two years or so.
  13. by   5cats
    Plus many employers want you to have visascreen as well before they file, to make sure you qualify, for that you need CGFNS anyway, and then it can save time when they allready got your details from CES.

    But yeah, every day counts? You ever had an employer who filed for you? Suzanne is absolutly right they take their time until they file. Doesn't matter if you got your NCLEX one day earlier or not.


    5cats

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