Journey of a foreign nurse getting licensure - page 2

!!!! Just found out that I am eligible for a license with the UK!!!!! Here is my journey as an American nurse: In 2010 after marrying my British hubby, I started to research into getting a British... Read More

  1. Visit  Coffee Nurse} profile page
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    The dates listed are the days you spend physically in class. They make up for the fact that this is clearly not 120 hours of classtime by making you fill out a workbook that takes a week or more to finish.
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  3. Visit  MuppetAus} profile page
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    Thanks for the post Baby RN it has been nice to see the whole process layed out. To know that the long delays are part of the process has helped settle my frustration.

    I know it is part of the dance we have to do to get to the outcome, it just feels like the record is stuck sometimes. (hmm just showed my age with the record comment lol)
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  4. Visit  misswoosie} profile page
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    Incidentally I trained in the UK, and a quick search online recently showed that of my group of 22 nurses, only 3 remained in the UK.

    That's incredible and quite sad too SKYLARK-when did you train?
    babyRN -what do you think about the differences in RN salaries?
  5. Visit  babyNP.} profile page
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    Miss Woosie, hahahahah, um, yeah. I filed taxes on ~$75,000 that doesn't include my agency or over-time work. Granted, I live in a metropolitan area, but looking at Band 5 Salary, the range is ~21,000-28,000 pounds which is about $33k-$43k? Even if you maxed out by living in inner London, it's another $10k at most. Yeesh. Not to mention housing prices which are astronomical in the London area.

    I am not going to the UK for the money, that much is clear! My DH is in school to become a teacher (has an undergrad from the UK in physics) and I'm sure that teachers make even less. We will probably lose a lot of potential income from moving to the UK, but life is not all about money and our future kids being able to see their grandparents on a more than once a year basis is worth it for my family. Not to mention being exposed to their heritage and culture. I feel a little sad that they won't be intrinsically linked to the British culture by virtue of living in the US for the first few years. Because, no, I won't have my kids over there because we can't afford to move over right now in the midst of paying off our student loans and car debt and I'm certainly not going to wait >5 years to have kids.
  6. Visit  misswoosie} profile page
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    The starting salary is around the same as the police force and teachers, but it's the lack of availability of higher graded positions in nursing and the pathetic yearly incremental yearly rises on each scale that leaves nurses way behind over the ongoing years.When agenda for change happened in ?2007 ( was supposed to grade positions across professions equally) because the largest % of employees in the NHS are nurses they were shafted basically. So you might have a physiotherapist with similar (or less IMO) responsibility and qualifications as a nurse but the job was banded as a 7 whilst the nursing job was banded as a 6!There are play coordinators on kids wards who were banded as 5 s and secretaries who were banded as 4s.The other thing is the overlap of salaries between the bands, so, for example, when I secured a lecturer practitioner position at band 7 and my salary increase was less than 1k a year to something like 32k.In some ways it's a disincentivefor nurse to apply for , for eg ,band 6 clinical nurse specialist posts because the pay rise doesn't cover the money lost from enhanced shift payments. Some of the ward based band 5s were taking home more than I was on a 7- without any overtime.The first job I was offered here in the US was at coordinator level and salary was 65k $.It's not just the money though- it's the way the NHS treats nurses and the fact that when anyone else says they can't do that task anymore eg EU working time directive for Drs or shortage of support services it's always the nurses who are expected to pick up the slack.One of the worst things I ever heard was a pt being transferred from acute care to Long term care and the ambulance staff called the ward after they had the pt in the ambulance to say that they had been incontinent of faeces in the loading bay at the front of the hospital and they needed a nurse to come down and clean it up!Off went the nurse (RN) from the ward with a bucket of water!
  7. Visit  MuppetAus} profile page
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    Yay I have just heard I have been succesful with my decision letter and now have to do only 20 days ONP. The decision process took 4 week but for some reason it takes 2 weeks to post a letter.... and I thought Australia post was slow.

    I have a sponsor so I'm hoping to be there in April

    *doing a happy dance now*
  8. Visit  NoleNurse2000} profile page
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    Where are you taking your ONP? Finishing my onsite part of it today in Manchester ( now to finish 2 papers before I can get my pin)
  9. Visit  babyNP.} profile page
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    Muppet, congrats! If you don't mind, would you post what type of degree you have and how many clinical/theory hours? It'd be very helpful for folks reading this. No worries if not. Also, you are from Australia, yes?

    Nole, I am taking it at the University of Bournemouth (south) in a few weeks. Very excited! The only drag is that DH can't come along because he's doing his full-time student internship. I'm bringing two empty suitcases to lug some more of his stuff from his old room with his parents, though. Slightly tempted to throw some of the stuff out...lol.

    Anyone been to the far south of England? I've only been to London, Sheffield, and Reading...I was thinking of visiting Dover to see the English Channel It's been a dream to swim across it since I was a teenager; I love open water swimming. Any other recommendations anyone?
    Last edit by babyNP. on Mar 2, '12
  10. Visit  Silverdragon102} profile page
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    New Forest is a good place to visit and I also enjoyed Portsmouth and Southampton (lived Portsmouth for 12 months before moving to Canada)
  11. Visit  MuppetAus} profile page
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    Quote from NoleNurse2000
    Where are you taking your ONP? Finishing my onsite part of it today in Manchester ( now to finish 2 papers before I can get my pin)
    Hi Nole, I'm taking my ONP in Bournemouth. I like the 3 contact days and the rest allows me plenty of time to sightsee.

    How have you found the ONP process? Is it difficult?
  12. Visit  MuppetAus} profile page
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    Quote from babyRN.
    Muppet, congrats! If you don't mind, would you post what type of degree you have and how many clinical/theory hours? It'd be very helpful for folks reading this. No worries if not. Also, you are from Australia, yes?

    Nole, I am taking it at the University of Bournemouth (south) in a few weeks. Very excited! The only drag is that DH can't come along because he's doing his full-time student internship. I'm bringing two empty suitcases to lug some more of his stuff from his old room with his parents, though. Slightly tempted to throw some of the stuff out...lol.

    Anyone been to the far south of England? I've only been to London, Sheffield, and Reading...I was thinking of visiting Dover to see the English Channel It's been a dream to swim across it since I was a teenager; I love open water swimming. Any other recommendations anyone?
    Baby I am from Australia and have a Bachelor of Nursing. Our course is 3 years and covers mental health. I did not get to see the final breakdown of hours that the university did before it was sent to the NMC. My university wanted to send it directly. When I was training we did 2 days every week of clinical placement and 3 days of lectures.

    I'm also doing my ONP at Bournemouth so I'd be very interested in how you find them.

    I have a job lined up for London. It is with Continental Travelnurse. I was really looking forward to working with them in Scotland and Northern Ireland but apparently they do not have any contracts in those areas.

    Baby I love swimming too but don't think I'd take on the channel. I'd be happy to stand and cheer and greet you with a warm blanket and a hot chocolate if you have a go at it.

    I'm finding looking for accommodation a bit daunting. I don't want to share with students (20 year olds) but the cost of renting on my own with no income during the ONP is a bit to expensive. I don't want to move in with Fred and Rosemary West types either.
  13. Visit  joyce.john2010} profile page
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    BabyRN,

    I'm in the process of getting my UK license. I need some help. I got the first pack and sent all the certified documents; however, the notary failed to mention that the copies were "true" photo copies, now i have to re-send everything to them. After this, what should I do in order to prepare for the second pack. What are the documents that I need to send to them? What are the words that should be included. Do you by chance know the formula to convert the hours for BSN degree? I did the traditional BSN in 3.5 years. It's getting a little frustrating... I started this in Aug 2012. I'll be getting married in Feb 2013, and would like to have my decision letter before then... Help please. thanks
  14. Visit  babyNP.} profile page
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    There's nothing that you can really do. If you read my post, I have a list of the things that i sent in, but you have to use their forms, so there's nothing you can really do to prepare. Make sure you get a seal/stamp on everything, or something on letterhead stating there is none (again, please see what I wrote). There is no general formula for converting hours. It's completely dependent on the school. You should ask your dean how many hours of clinical time you had in each course. Most schools have something like a a set number of hours per credit per week per semester.

    edit: You do need an official set of transcripts (this is in addition to the conversion of hours sheet), so you can request that, I suppose.


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