I want to study in America IELTS or TOEFL that better one

  1. TOEFL is changing like IELTS SOON. I think the best test for students is IELTS.
    I want to study in America which one I should take course.
    Who can you tell me to answer this question?
    Thankful If you tell me.
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  3. by   suzanne4
    TOEFL is changing September 2005. Preparation for either exam is essentially the same, only difference is that ETS was the American exam, and the IELTS series was origianlly designed for Australia and the U.K.

    Personally, I think that the IELTS exam is a better exam from a hiring standpoint as it gives a truer study of how well someone will do with English.
    You can actually pass the TOEFL exam and not be able to speak a word of English...............that is why TSE is so important, as well as the speaking band of the IELTS.

    My suggestion: Worry more about your conversational skills and the rest will follow. If you just try to prepare for an exam, that is not the way to learn English. The vocabulary used in the exams is not what is used on a routine day for anyone. Get your speaking and listening skills up to those of a native speaker, then and only then, prepare for the exams. You will do much better that way..............
  4. by   Gem_jewelry
    Thank you for a lot of details you give me.
  5. by   fevzi
    Greetings to all, new member here.

    Hello Suzanne, your advice on improving conversational skills seems to imply you have a lot of time to do it. But isn't there a limit to how long you can take t pass the IELTS or TSE?

    I am writing on behalf of my fiance, who is an RN from Turkey, she is currently working in the Bay Area, California as a home care nurse.
  6. by   fero
    Quote from fevzi
    Greetings to all, new member here.

    Hello Suzanne, your advice on improving conversational skills seems to imply you have a lot of time to do it. But isn't there a limit to how long you can take t pass the IELTS or TSE?

    I am writing on behalf of my fiance, who is an RN from Turkey, she is currently working in the Bay Area, California as a home care nurse.

    heyyy fevzi i am from turkey too and now in tx. I am a rn from turkey too and try to work in the USA. But i havent taken NCLEX yet. Please give me your e-mail. I would like to talk more about that.
  7. by   fero
    Quote from Gem_jewelry
    TOEFL is changing like IELTS SOON. I think the best test for students is IELTS.
    I want to study in America which one I should take course.
    Who can you tell me to answer this question?
    Thankful If you tell me.
    I dont think there are courses for IELTS but TOEFL. I took a TOEFL course and took the exam. You should take computer based TOEFL and get at least 540. Then you need to take an exam for speaking as well. But if you take IELTS, you dont need to take an exam for speaking. Thats what I know.
  8. by   fevzi
    Quote from fero
    heyyy fevzi i am from turkey too and now in tx. I am a rn from turkey too and try to work in the USA. But i havent taken NCLEX yet. Please give me your e-mail. I would like to talk more about that.
    Hello Fero, you have a new PM
  9. by   suzanne4
    Yes, you do take an exam for speaking with IELTS. It is just included with the exam. You must take the academic branch with the speaking section.
    Sorry, but with either English testing, there will be a speaking part.

    There is no time limit as to how long you have. You need to have English completed for your Visa Screen Certificate.

    There is an excellent program that is available on-line for preparing for the IELTS exam. It can be found at www.scottsenglish.com. The program is based out of Australia, where IELTS reigns and they have an excellent program. Yuo can pay by the month or for a three month program, and access it as much as you want. I have been quite impressed with their program.
    Last edit by suzanne4 on Jul 2, '05
  10. by   suzanne4
    Quote from fero
    I dont think there are courses for IELTS but TOEFL. I took a TOEFL course and took the exam. You should take computer based TOEFL and get at least 540. Then you need to take an exam for speaking as well. But if you take IELTS, you dont need to take an exam for speaking. Thats what I know.
    Computer based passing score is 207, pencil and paper is 540. They are two different exams.

    Fro the full set of English exams, you need TOEFL, TWE (which is included with TOEFL on the computerized version), as well as TSE: Test of Spoken English.
  11. by   fero
    Quote from suzanne4
    Computer based passing score is 207, pencil and paper is 540. They are two different exams.

    Fro the full set of English exams, you need TOEFL, TWE (which is included with TOEFL on the computerized version), as well as TSE: Test of Spoken English.
    Sorrry Suzannen. I just could not remember 207 and wrote the paper based score.
  12. by   fevzi
    Quote from suzanne4
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    There is no time limit as to how long you have. You need to have English completed for your Visa Screen Certificate.

    There is an excellent porgram that is available on-line for preparing for the IELTS exam. It can be found at www.scottsenglish.com. The program is based out of Australia, where IELTS reigns and they have an excellent program. Yuo can pay by the month or for a three month program, and access it as much as you want. I have been quite impressed with their program.
    Thank you for the information Suzanne. My fiance is already in the US and she has a work permit and recieved her RN certification here. My fiance has received a letter from the INS, she was given until middle of August to provide all the paperwork (which includes the IELTS or TSE test results) otherwise she can get a denial for permenant residence (I-485 adjustmen of status) application. She has taken the IELTS, unfortunately she got 1/2 point below the pass value, so she needs to take it again. But she cannot take another IELTS test within 90 days of the previous one. Now she is studying for TSE (we are always conversing on different topics to improve her spoken English), so she can take it before the INS deadline.

    Anyhow I am not sure if you have any ideas on this process, we'd appreciate any advice on this.

    best regards,
    fevzi
    Last edit by suzanne4 on Jul 2, '05
  13. by   suzanne4
    Do you already have a date scheduled for the TSE? There is a 90 day waiting list in many cities. That is the major reason that the IELTS was given approval to be used.

    I would still suggest that she use the program that I listed above. It will be more thorough in covering what is needed..............and be more specific in correcting what she is doing wrong.

    The IELTS is actually the easier of the two in the speaking section because you have a human examiner in front of you, with TSE it is done by tape recorder. So I think that the program would be beneficial for that reason too.

    Check it out and let me know what you think...............cost is only about $49 for one month or about $89 for three months. Definitely worth the cost, in my opinion.
  14. by   fevzi
    Yes, on the 9th we have the TSE exam.

    Yes the IELTS does seem to be easier since you are dealing with a person instead of talking to a machine. But she had trouble with the Australian accent. She'd have passed if she could understand the Australian accent.. Had I known I'd have found some Australian radio on the web and get her to listen to it before the exam.

    Anyhow, thanks for the advice. I did try the link you mentioned, it did not work last week, but now it seems to be working. We will check it out.

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