Hoping to move to NZ this year. Midwifery info. needed. - page 2

Hi, am hoping to move to NZ this year. Had been hoping for August but may well be October. Am married with 2 kids (11 & 7 ). Have been a midwife for 13 years now and have wanted to come to NZ for... Read More

  1. by   Djuna
    The Nursing Council of New Zealand no longer [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]issues verifications or practising certificates for midwives. These may be obtained from the Midwifery Council of New Zealand.

    source: http://www.nursingcouncil.org.nz/midwifery.html

    The process for registering as a Midwife can be found here;

    http://www.midwiferycouncil.org.nz/

    The reason for the two separate organisations is we have Direct Entry Midwives who are not RNs and Midwifery is considered quite different from nursing.

    I don't know about getting a visa to come to NZ as a midwife then not working as one. That kind of seems dishonest to me and Immigration doesn't look too kindly on people who lie on their visa applications. You should contact them directly to see what the rules are.
    Last edit by Djuna on Jun 21, '08
  2. by   Interested Party
    If you are granted a NZ Permanent Residency Visa then you don't have to specifically work as a nurse or midwife. You will be allowed to pursue another career.

    IP
  3. by   suzanne4
    Quote from Interested Party
    If you are granted a NZ Permanent Residency Visa then you don't have to specifically work as a nurse or midwife. You will be allowed to pursue another career.

    IP
    But, if you are applying for the visa and wish to get it issued because of the midwifery training, then one needs to be working in that field. And that is what the person was asking about. Getting the visa specifically since they are a midwife.
  4. by   suzanne4
    Quote from Djuna
    The Nursing Council of New Zealand no longer [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]issues verifications or practising certificates for midwives. These may be obtained from the Midwifery Council of New Zealand.

    source: http://www.nursingcouncil.org.nz/midwifery.html

    The process for registering as a Midwife can be found here;

    http://www.midwiferycouncil.org.nz/

    The reason for the two separate organisations is we have Direct Entry Midwives who are not RNs and Midwifery is considered quite different from nursing.

    I don't know about getting a visa to come to NZ as a midwife then not working as one. That kind of seems dishonest to me and Immigration doesn't look too kindly on people who lie on their visa applications. You should contact them directly to see what the rules are.
    I am aware of the two different licensing agencies, but the fact remains that they need the RN behind them to get the visa to be able to work there as a midwife, and for the visa as well. The Direct Entry programs that you have there are for those that are in your country and not coming from another one with separate licensure. Being a midwife and not an RN is not going to be work for immigration in most cases. And even more so if they do not wish to work in that field as well.

    They need to contact the authorities directly there for specific information related to their case. And if wishing to even have a chance at another field, they are going to need to be licensed there as an RN.
  5. by   Interested Party
    Quote from suzanne4
    But, if you are applying for the visa and wish to get it issued because of the midwifery training, then one needs to be working in that field. And that is what the person was asking about. Getting the visa specifically since they are a midwife.
    Not necessarily. It is a Permanent Residency visa, meaning that once you are granted that visa, you can work in any area you chose. The Permanent Residency status allows you to live, vote, study etc etc, same as a citizen except PR does not get issued a NZ passport.

    The logical things to do is if you are a qualified midwife and applied on that basis, the expectation is that you have to work as one. But that is not always the case unless immigration has specified that on the visa. I know a number of migrants who were granted their NZ PR and have not worked in the profession stated in their PR application.

    IP
  6. by   shazniko
    Thanks everybody for your input.

    Djuna, don't appreciate you implying that I am being dishonest though! I am not lying about being a midwife. I have 13 years experience and probably will work in the field in NZ. However, the long term plan is to start up a business with my husband so if I did eventually give up midwifery then I don't want to find myself suddenly deported! Better to make sure beforehand. Just weighing up my options.
  7. by   shazniko
    Suzanne4

    I am a direct-entry trained midwife and DONT need to be RN trained to be able to gain NZ registration or a PR visa. Dual trained midwives are going to be few and far between now as that is the way the training is going now.

    If I was changing career, it certainly wouldn't be within nursing, it would be something entirely different.

    Shazniko
  8. by   shazniko
    Interested Party

    Thats great to know. thanks very much. Its just good to know that if I want to have a career change, then I can. I probably will jack in midwifery at some point, just don't know when.

    Shazniko
  9. by   Djuna
    Quote from shazniko
    Thanks everybody for your input.

    Djuna, don't appreciate you implying that I am being dishonest though! I am not lying about being a midwife. I have 13 years experience and probably will work in the field in NZ. However, the long term plan is to start up a business with my husband so if I did eventually give up midwifery then I don't want to find myself suddenly deported! Better to make sure beforehand. Just weighing up my options.
    If you are coming to NZ on a visa specifically because you are a midwife and then never work as one, that is dishonest and I stand by that statement. I did not imply you weren't a qualified midwife at all.
  10. by   shazniko
    I didn't say I would never work as a midwife. However, I am emigrating for the lifestyle, not for career progression. If my qualifications can allow me to do that then all good and well. If I fancy changing my career at any point then I think that is entirely up to me as long as it is within the immigration rules and regulations.
  11. by   Djuna
    I agree with you completely shazniko.

    I wish you all the best for your big life change and hope you enjoy New Zealand.
  12. by   suzanne4
    Quote from shazniko
    Suzanne4

    I am a direct-entry trained midwife and DONT need to be RN trained to be able to gain NZ registration or a PR visa. Dual trained midwives are going to be few and far between now as that is the way the training is going now.

    If I was changing career, it certainly wouldn't be within nursing, it would be something entirely different.

    Shazniko
    Ther person that posted stated that they were interested in trying another field, that is hard to do when you do not hold a license for that. If it is nursing or a related field, it is going to require the RN license at some point.

    And as a direct entry midwife, then you never held RN licensure to begin with. Correct? That is something altogether different here as well.
    The person that is asking was trained first as an RN, and that is where the difference is as well.
  13. by   shazniko
    Hi

    I was wondering if anyone could tell me what Whangarei is like to live in? Are there good schools? What shopping facilities are there?

    Does anyone work in Whangarei hospital? I am a midwife and considering working there.

    Any other information would be gratefully received?

    Thanks

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