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i just received this message... :idea:.... and maybe you might be interested .. original message from a friend... in a desperate housewives scene in which susan (teri hatcher) was told by her... Read More

  1. by   Rep
    Never watch the show. And since its a TV show, then its normal for them tomake fun of people of different countries and races.

    Culturally, Filipinos are sensitive to anything Filipino and its normal to us. When Philippines withdrew its military contigent from Iraq, Jay Leno made fun of it and a lot of Filipinos back home demanded an apology but sensible heads said that it was only a joke.

    If you mean that it has something with the nursing scandal then you are quite wrong because even if there was no nursing scandal, you will still hear some Filipinos demanding an apology.

    Get my point...

    By the way, you mentioned should American take offense everytime somebody makes fun of Bush or anything American? Well, come to think of it, Americans could not care less what is happening on the other side of the planet. Could not even find where Iraq is on the map where American soldiers are dying. Then why should Americans take offense?

    Quote from Nurse!Nurse!Hello?
    Wow! Talk about making a big deal over nothing! It was a joke, not an international incident.

    In one of the episodes last season, Gaby locked her husband Carlos out of the house, and he was trying to break in. She called the police and said, "Come armed--he's Mexican!" There was no big outcry from the Mexican government over the joke--no demand for apologies, or online petitions, or suggestions that ABC make a financial donation to Mexico.

    Last season the show portrayed a maid from China, in a humorous way. Nobody from the Chinese government made a fuss about it. Why? Because it was a JOKE!

    Should the US take offense every time someone from another country makes fun of our president, George Bush? Should we demand an official apology? Cut their visas? Cut off financial aid to the offending countries?

    I really don't understand why Filipinos are being so sensitive about this issue. Does it have something to do with the nursing test scandal -- that foreign countries are now beginning to question the quality of healthcare providers from PI? I don't have an answer to that. But the situation with the one comment on Desperate Housewives, and how it has been totally blown out of proportion really makes me wonder...
  2. by   sinagbayan
    Nurse!Nurse!Hello? I don't want to sound cantankerous here but people react in different ways to the same situation. What is pleasant to you may not necessarily seem remotely comfortable to another. And that is if you share the same culture, language and social milieu.

    After 9/11, when America and all of Western Civilization grieved, the Palestinians actually were partying on the streets. I don't condone or remotely suggest that terrorism is even by any stretch of the imagination correct, but people view things from a cultural (and political and religious etc. etc. etc.) prism.

    If a person disparages another person's mother who happens to have a dysfunctional mother, do you think it would have the same effect as when experienced by another person who had a close, stable, and loving maternal figure? What do you think?

    The line uttered by Teri Hatcher touched a nerve on us Filipinos. Of course, I wouldn't expect you to understand it. Then again, we view things from a cultural prism. Peace!
  3. by   RNHawaii34
    Quote from leiza
    i just received this message... .... and maybe you might be interested ..

    original message from a friend...

    in a desperate housewives scene in which susan (teri hatcher) was told by her gynecologist that she might be hitting menopause, she replied, "can i just check those diplomas because i just want to make sure that they are not from some med school in the philippines."

    hmmm... not that kind of stuff i want to hear, considering my family (and most filipinos in the us) is in the healthcare business.

    there's a demand for abc and desperate housewives producers' apology started by a community of filipino americans. the last time i checked, there were around 4700 signatures. click this link if you want to join http://www.petitiononline.com/filabc/

    be heard and spread the word!
    ummm...desperate who? sorry, i don't even watch that garbage... but being in america for so long, that doesn't bother me anymore. maybe the abc writers didn't think first before he or she wrote the script. i am sure they are trying to be funny. on the other hand, thats the problem with too much freedom, you can say whatever you want in this land..i am aware that not only filipinos are making fun off, but also other third world countries....picture yourself being a citizen of those countries, they can say a lot of horrible things, you can watch late night shows, and you can see and hear worse comments from them, most of it makes me laugh, but you just have to understand that it is just a show, people. you don't like it? don't watch it. you can take revenge by not watching that desperately, middle aged, -trying to be young, sexy, pitty pitty me show...or why not watch the other show instead? now, lets go back to nursing stuff
  4. by   akoitoh
    Just some info, my friend send this to me..
    There is a Filipina DOctor named Dr. Eleonor Concepcion Mariano who was the first Filipino-American to reach the rank of Admiral in the US NAvy and was WHite House physician for Pres Clinton and Pres Bush. So can u imagine Filipina doctor that takes good care of the US Presidents....if their diplomas were to some med school in Philippines

    freedom entails responsibilities..
  5. by   lenjoy03
    Quote from sinagbayan
    Nurse!Nurse!Hello? I don't want to sound cantankerous here but people react in different ways to the same situation. What is pleasant to you may not necessarily seem remotely comfortable to another. And that is if you share the same culture, language and social milieu.

    After 9/11, when America and all of Western Civilization grieved, the Palestinians actually were partying on the streets. I don't condone or remotely suggest that terrorism is even by any stretch of the imagination correct, but people view things from a cultural (and political and religious etc. etc. etc.) prism.

    If a person disparages another person's mother who happens to have a dysfunctional mother, do you think it would have the same effect as when experienced by another person who had a close, stable, and loving maternal figure? What do you think?

    The line uttered by Teri Hatcher touched a nerve on us Filipinos. Of course, I wouldn't expect you to understand it. Then again, we view things from a cultural prism. Peace!
    I understand what you mean, BUT..... When you say freedom, your free to do anything but you shouldn't step on other people! Culture? As a nurse, we do study or try to understand our patient's culture. Because whatever acceptable norms we have may not be acceptabe to others. As what you said. But we shouldn't expect Ms. Hatcher study our culture before she said that. Its just that, even if you dont know what other peoples culture is, racism is such a NO NO! Common sense! And I think any country all over the world will react if they hear something bad about their culture or people! That's the attitude that people all over the world has! Its applicable to everyone! Peace!
  6. by   Rep
    When it comes to shows, responsibility has nothing to do with free speech. Late night shows here are full of racist remarks.

    Quote from akoitoh
    free speech comes with responsibility

    let's just move on..

    The ABC responded to the growing clamor by issuing a public apology.
  7. by   Granysuzy
    the philippines is known for fake diplomas and of the nursing leakage issue, but look at this, america is known for the 12 million or more illegal immigrants, with fake greencards! so, i guess america also is known for its fake greencards! :roll
  8. by   elkpark
    Quote from Rep
    By the way, you mentioned should American take offense everytime somebody makes fun of Bush or anything American? Well, come to think of it, Americans could not care less what is happening on the other side of the planet. Could not even find where Iraq is on the map where American soldiers are dying. Then why should Americans take offense?
    (Gee, SPEAKING of offensive sweeping generalizations ... :angryfire)
  9. by   kookhy
    I always watch Jay Leno's show and he would always have jokes about how "dumb" your President is, if you can do this to the person who's running your country, it's no surprise that you'd also do the same thing with others.
  10. by   suzanne4
    Again, everyone is under the impression that Terri Hatcher came up with this statement; that can't be further from the truth. All script lines are prepared by script writers that are actually quite highly paid and they look to be able to push buttons many times.

    This was nothing to do with this character at all. But take into account of what has been in the Filipino newspapers that are free all over the LA area, and the discussions there of how diplomas have been bought from many professions, and not just nurses and physicians. But you do not see the others getting upset with one line on a television show. There are other things to focus on, and a prime example, would be the government over there and how they are opening up puppy mills for professions for payment of money. If all of the resentment being shown against this one line, and was instead used to push the administration there to correct things before they get worse, then thing can get changed. But complaining to ABC to offer an apology over one line that will not make a difference in how things are done in PI is just crazy.

    And our television shows like this, do things to get ratings. Period. And because of all of this commotion going on, you just raised their ratings, the opposite affect that you wanted to give them.

    Any person anywhere is subject to having something said about them that can get them upset, but you need to learn to put it into context and that it was a tv series. It was not a statement being made by a government official to the United Nations, or anything else like that.
    For any of you that have watched DH, you know that it was created to be provocative in the first place, and they get their money by the increase in ratings. Now everyone will be watching to see what they do next. And you have just made them more money, not hurt them in any way.

    There are more jokes passed around even over the internet, and some that you may recieve via e-mail. And the topic can be anything, there are Catholic jokes, Italian jokes, Polish jokes, Jewish jokes, even jokes about nurses. And they were never meant to cause any harm, just fun. There are jokes being told in the OR, same can be said in the ER, and every other unit in a hospital. Do not take anything personal, unless it was specific to you, and not a generalization. Or you may be going home and crying and hating everything here.

    And in the Philippines, you cannot tell me that statements are not spoken there, or comments made about the way that we do things in the US, or even about Bush. Those are seen all over the world, no matter the culture, religion, or anything else. They are not selective.
  11. by   dave787
    yes even if teri hatcher just deliver watever the scrip prepared by the writers but if shes sensitve enough then she shuld say something, like will i not hurt wth this script. lets accept that people around the world have different personal reactios, i gues we nurses would understand it, thats why we have transcultural nursing and for all things why choose philippines thats a big shame on them filipinos are hard working in the states and they insulted that way shes also insulting the healthcare system cmpetncy of the states . how dare to say that, before a filipino doctor can pracice they undergo series of exam . so she better say i better check the amercian exam for doctor if it was given correctly.
  12. by   SilverSurfer
    We Filipinos are sensitive to this issue, because our culture is different from other cultures like the Americans..So they must respect our culture....as Nurses we are trained to respect and understand different cultures.... Thats why we are trained to be transcultural nurses...
  13. by   suzanne4
    Quote from dave23
    yes even if teri hatcher just deliver watever the scrip prepared by the writers but if shes sensitve enough then she shuld say something, like will i not hurt wth this script. lets accept that people around the world have different personal reactios, i gues we nurses would understand it, thats why we have transcultural nursing and for all things why choose philippines thats a big shame on them filipinos are hard working in the states and they insulted that way shes also insulting the healthcare system cmpetncy of the states . how dare to say that, before a filipino doctor can pracice they undergo series of exam . so she better say i better check the amercian exam for doctor if it was given correctly.
    Sorry, but the characters just get the script before they shoot, they do not even have time to think about things. And this same thing happens in your country with your soap operas as well.

    I am sure that things have been said about somebody that offended someone else without anyone even realizing it. We have all heard all different types of things, and if you are going to get offended by something like this, you are going to have issues working as nurses in other countries, not even thinking of the US.

    But you will come into contact with patients that are older and you come from SE Asia and they fought in Viet Nam and they will not want you to care for them because of their confusion and they think that you are from there. You are not going to walk out from caring for that patient unless other arrangements can be made, because that will be abandoning a patient and you can lose a license over it.

    All of us know that any physician that is in the US must go thru an internship, as well as a residency program. We see things in the show ER all of the time here that we know are impossible for it to be done, but do we complain each time? Just is not worth it. These are only soap operas, not national news. But you have given the show what they have wanted, an increase in their ratings, not the other way.

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