Can you sit for the NCLEX if you're an illegal immigrant? - page 2

A classmate of mine told me she's a undocumented immigrant. My concern is this, what will happen after she gets her ADN? Will she be able to sit for the NCLEX ? Or will she even be able to get her... Read More

  1. by   ElvishDNP
    Quote from elkpark
    No, certainly not, but it is her choice NOW -- if s/he is old enough to go to college, s/he is old enough to be aware of her/his legal status, and to take responsibility for continuing to break the law by staying here illegally.

    I am not only vehemently opposed to in-state tuition for illegal immigrants, I believe that people should have to show proof/documentation of legal resident status to be able to attend school here at all.
    You are entitled to hold that opinion, but when there's not a way for people to get here legally, then exactly what would you do in their shoes? Sit at home and starve, or let your children starve?

    I'm not trying to stir the pot (though this thread is quickly headed in that direction) but if it's not their choice to be here, is it fair to withhold education from them? Seriously. What do you suggest we do with the children who can't go to school because they're here illegally? Let them stay home and pray they don't become criminals?

    I am not going to say any more on this thread because I am about an inch away from saying things that might get me in trouble.
    Last edit by ElvishDNP on Oct 7, '07
  2. by   RN4US
    This is very interesting situation. The US is hoping to have US nursing graduates to start working soon after graduation or passing NCLEX but it looks like a certain number of them cannot take NCLEX or work legally.
  3. by   suzanne4
    Quote from RN4US
    This is very interesting situation. The US is hoping to have US nursing graduates to start working soon after graduation or passing NCLEX but it looks like a certain number of them cannot take NCLEX or work legally.
    This is not anything new and has been happening for years with the same consequences. Most do know that they are here illegally and why there were never able to get jobs since they do not have a SSN#.

    And with the case that I reported above, she never knew that she was here illegally, her father gave her a SSN# and she used it without any problems until she submitted for licensure to Texas BON to be able to sit for the NCLEX exam. Everything happened right around that same time so hard to pinpoint why ICE picked her up.

    But things are checked, and checked again; now. But even more important is that there is no way that they can stay in the US and work since there are no visas available in the first place. So if there is nothing to adjust to, it does not matter if legal or not legal, the issue is that there is no way to get a visa to remain and work now. And we do not expect visas to open up for at least two to three years for adjustment of status.

    I doubt if she is under 21, so that she did not know does not play a factor in this with things the way that they are. Scarier is that if she gets stopped for anything, even if the bus or taxi is in an accident, she can get deported; and that means straight to immigration detention and the only visitors are those with legal visas for the US.

    Bad way to be right now, always wondering if you are going to be picked up the next day. And you do not get a chance to go home and get your things, just whatever you have with you is what you will leave with; and they do not care if you have an apt or home, car, etc.

    That is not my opinion on anything, just stating what is happening in the US right now. And then we also have to look at the schools that are not asking for proof of being in the US, some blame needs to be placed on them as well. Especially when it comes to the colleges and to a field where there are not enough programs/openings for those that can work when they graduate.

    Shame on these programs that are slipping in their requirements placed on them by the US federal government.
  4. by   suzanne4
    Quote from RN4US
    This is very interesting situation. The US is hoping to have US nursing graduates to start working soon after graduation or passing NCLEX but it looks like a certain number of them cannot take NCLEX or work legally.
    This is not anything new and has been happening for years with the same consequences. Most do know that they are here illegally and why there were never able to get jobs since they do not have a SSN#.

    And with the case that I reported above, she never knew that she was here illegally, her father gave her a SSN# and she used it without any problems until she submitted for licensure to Texas BON to be able to sit for the NCLEX exam. Everything happened right around that same time so hard to pinpoint why ICE picked her up.

    But things are checked, and checked again; now. But even more important is that there is no way that they can stay in the US and work since there are no visas available in the first place. So if there is nothing to adjust to, it does not matter if legal or not legal, the issue is that there is no way to get a visa to remain and work now. And we do not expect visas to open up for at least two to three years for adjustment of status.

    I doubt if she is under 21, so that she did not know does not play a factor in this with things the way that they are. Scarier is that if she gets stopped for anything, even if the bus or taxi is in an accident, she can get deported; and that means straight to immigration detention and the only visitors are those with legal visas for the US.

    Bad way to be right now, always wondering if you are going to be picked up the next day. And you do not get a chance to go home and get your things, just whatever you have with you is what you will leave with; and they do not care if you have an apt or home, car, etc.

    That is not my opinion on anything, just stating what is happening in the US right now. And then we also have to look at the schools that are not asking for proof of being in the US, some blame needs to be placed on them as well. Especially when it comes to the colleges and to a field where there are not enough programs/openings for those that can work when they graduate.

    Shame on these programs that are slipping in their requirements placed on them by the US federal government.
  5. by   chickieprincess
    what if you've graduated ADN here, you're not undocumented but have tax identification number. It's just that you're no long here legally. Would you be able to sit for the NCLEX. You will not be bale to work but at least take the board exam.
  6. by   ghillbert
    I don't see how - you have to provide SSN to the state to be able to apply for licensure most of the time. Although I guess some states don't require SSN until you renew. ITIN does not substitute for SSN.
  7. by   NurseCubanitaRN2b
    Don't know about other states but email licensing at the CA BRN and they will tell you that a ITIN ISN'T A SUBSTITUTE FOR A SS# AND WOULD BE FRAUD IF IT'S USED AS A SUBSTITUTE. I got that from the CA BRN itself.

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