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No. 30
from Promin1
Old Sep 20, 2009, 10:17 PM
Updated Sep 20, 2009 at 10:31 PM by Promin1

Default Re: Australia versus New Zealand
Originally Posted by seungk5 View Post
y is that by the way??? So I have to choose carefully which state to take licensure because I can only get the license from that state??? On top of that I have to get into the school in that state!!! I am looking at Oregon Health and Science University, they have online RN BSN program and since I live in California, I can do clinical here and do classes online, 420 dollars per credit. Not too bad at all! I can get the license in Oregon and apply for this program... it just means I have to make sure I qualify for this program because once I get Oregon license, I have to go to Oregon school and this is the only one that I can afford... the other schools are more expensive.
This particular program requires a lot of credits to graduate. Normally, only about 120 credits are required (like here http://nursing.up.edu/default.aspx?cid=3539&pid=206), but this program requires 180 and it seems like only 48 credits can be transferred. I think it's not worth it. It will take too long and will be expensive to complete this program.
Have you checked other programs?

http://www.oregon.gov/OSBN/RN_LPNpro...egree_Programs


Also, the major issue will be to get accepted there in the first place, because they may require a proof of status as the US resident or international student.
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No. 31
from seungk5
Old Sep 21, 2009, 12:33 AM

Default Re: Australia versus New Zealand
Originally Posted by Promin1 View Post

http://www.oregon.gov/OSBN/RN_LPNpro...egree_Programs


Also, the major issue will be to get accepted there in the first place, because they may require a proof of status as the US resident or international student.
there's a program in University of Health Science of Oregon, it's a online course so I can stay in California and still do it online. Linfield also has one online and they are all roughly 420dollar per credit.

Here is my question though Promin1... why should I get a BSN here in U.S. if I can get it in Canada or New Zealand?

My BSN is only good here in the states... If I take that BSN to another country, it is still useless because I have no experience as a nurse... On the other hand if I can manage to transfer to a school in Canada and get a BSN... I can probably get sponsored for a work visa since they are in dire need of nurses...

so why should I stay and get a BSN here in U.S.?
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No. 32
Old Sep 21, 2009, 06:29 AM

Default Re: Australia versus New Zealand
Originally Posted by seungk5 View Post
there's a program in University of Health Science of Oregon, it's a online course so I can stay in California and still do it online. Linfield also has one online and they are all roughly 420dollar per credit.

Here is my question though Promin1... why should I get a BSN here in U.S. if I can get it in Canada or New Zealand?

My BSN is only good here in the states... If I take that BSN to another country, it is still useless because I have no experience as a nurse... On the other hand if I can manage to transfer to a school in Canada and get a BSN... I can probably get sponsored for a work visa since they are in dire need of nurses...

so why should I stay and get a BSN here in U.S.?
Canada isn't in as dire need of nurses as you think and even if they are employers would more than likely be looking for experience. Alberta already has a hiring freeze and the other provinces could easily follow suite and this could affect you even if you did your training in Canada. They may require proof of legal status in the US and this may have a impact on whether they will issue a student visa or not.

Staying when you know you are there illegal just means you are opening yourself up even more to getting caught and being deported and that will harm your chances on returning.
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No. 33
from Promin1
Old Sep 21, 2009, 09:51 AM

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It's up to you. How are you going to emigrate to Canada or New Zealand, have you looked at the criteria? Will you get enough points? Without BSN you won't be able to obtain a license there. No license means to emigration. Get your BSN here. By the time you finish school the Dream Act may pass and you wont need to go anywhere.
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No. 34
from seungk5
Old Sep 21, 2009, 09:25 PM

Default Re: Australia versus New Zealand
Originally Posted by Silverdragon102 View Post
Canada isn't in as dire need of nurses as you think and even if they are employers would more than likely be looking for experience. Alberta already has a hiring freeze and the other provinces could easily follow suite and this could affect you even if you did your training in Canada. They may require proof of legal status in the US and this may have a impact on whether they will issue a student visa or not.

Staying when you know you are there illegal just means you are opening yourself up even more to getting caught and being deported and that will harm your chances on returning.
nope, my status here in the U.S. does not affect my chance of immigrating else where, already confirmed with lawyers, etc. Deportation will affect me but not if I leave voluntarily.

there is no "returning..." Even after 10 year ban they won't let me back in, it's not likely. My best chance is to wait and see if this law is going to pass next year. Leaving right now before the law even comes up to be voted would be foolish. There's a 50/50 chance that comprehensive immigration may pass. On top of that, I can technically get sponsored, my application for legal status is pending, so I am not 100 percent illegal, I am in a legal limbo where I am stuck as a pending visa status... It's not as easy as just leaving, that may be YOUR opinion but that is definitely not the best option for my future. I would appreciate it if you reserve your own judgment and opinion... I am simply asking for some information and facts about the possibility of immigrating to another country.
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No. 35
from Fiona59
Old Sep 21, 2009, 11:07 PM

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Well somehow, I don't think most countries will welcome the application of an illegal resident of the US.

But then from your post, our opinion doesn't matter, so why keep asking for them.

You know the answers you want to hear.
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No. 36
from 5cats
Old Sep 21, 2009, 11:19 PM

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[quote=seungk5;3874851]nope, my status here in the U.S. does not affect my chance of immigrating else where, already confirmed with lawyers, etc. Deportation will affect me but not if I leave voluntarily.
Did they tell you how to get a police certificate when you are illegal? Because you will need one for immigration.


there is no "returning..." Even after 10 year ban they won't let me back in, it's not likely. My best chance is to wait and see if this law is going to pass next year. Leaving right now before the law even comes up to be voted would be foolish. There's a 50/50 chance that comprehensive immigration may pass. On top of that, I can technically get sponsored, my application for legal status is pending, so I am not 100 percent illegal,
How many % are you legal then??

5cats
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No. 37
from seungk5
Old Sep 21, 2009, 11:29 PM

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police report would be from Korea...

overstaying visa is not a crime but a civil disobedience, not in the criminal record unless I get deported.

I have cleared it with a lawyer, my overstayed visa presence here does not affect immigrating to another country since I am applying from Korea not U.S. I would have to go back to Korea first then apply to another country, my status in U.S. has nothing to do with it. This is a fact...

it's a different country... overstaying a visa isn't an issue to another country... especially in my case when I GREW UP HERE. Don't you get it? I grew up here since I was sixth grade? I could be your classmate, your next door neighbor, your childhood friend and you would never even know it! Shoot, most of us didn't even know we were "illegal" till our parents told us when we turned 18. It's not even our fault... have some mercy people. By a stroke of luck you could be in my shoes, just because of the parents that you have. I have a flipping 3.9 gpa in my college and worked my butt off and I work and PAY TAXES. I worked harder than any of my friends just to be where I am today, wiping tables at restaurants and studying all day and night for nursing school. You could have been in my shoes... if you just happened to be born to a wrong parents... would you have gone back and left the country that you grew up in and called "home?" Gone back to what? Country you haven't been in for a decade since you were a child and have no future in? Haha... go back... easy for you to say...
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No. 38
Old Sep 22, 2009, 07:03 AM

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You need to state where you have lived and you have lived in the US therefore you have to provide a police certificate. If you do not it is classed as fraud and will severely affect your chances

This is what it states on the Canada CIC website

Who needs a police certificate?

In general, you and everyone in your family who is 18 years of age or over need to obtain a police certificate. You must obtain a police certificate from each country or territory where you have lived for six consecutive months or longer since reaching the age of 18.

The certificate must have been issued no more than three months before you submit your application.

If the original certificate is neither in English nor in French, submit both the certificate and the original copy of a translation prepared by an accredited translator with your application.


http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...cert/intro.asp
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No. 39
from Promin1
Old Sep 22, 2009, 09:44 AM
Updated Sep 22, 2009 at 09:55 AM by Promin1

Default Re: Australia versus New Zealand
She will be able to get a certificate. Why you've decided she won't? Thousands of people who overstayed their visa in the US were able to emigrate to Canada successfully. FBI and police don't care if you were legal or not. They just match a name and fingerprints against their databases and if there is no record, that what all they print "No record".
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