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No. 20
from lawrence01
Old Mar 13, 2008, 07:48 AM

Default Re: Attention: Philippines nurses - there is no nursing shortage in America
*Moderator's note:

The thread is slightly getting off-topic already. In respect to the thread starter, I think we should go back to the main topic.

If any one feels that further discussion is needed regarding the off-topic subject, I think it would be best if someone starts a new thread for it. Thanks.
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No. 21
Old Mar 13, 2008, 09:26 AM

Default Re: Attention: Philippines nurses - there is no nursing shortgae in America
Originally Posted by oneproudigorot View Post
Thanks for inspiring me. I think that from the very beginning God has been leading to become a nurse it's just that I was young and had several opportunities before and I took a path that is quite related to nursing. I am a medical technologist here in the Philippines

After I passed my licensure exam for medical technologists, I planned to pursue a degree in Medicine but several things happened in my life that led me to reconsider my options.

I am now a fully pledged nurse. I've just finished a month of orientation in the same hospital where I worked as a medical technologist.

I was blessed to have passed my CGFNS, NCLEX and IELTS exams last year. I believe that was all part of God's plan for me.

I am very lucky to be working in a hospital that tries to set its standards higher. I like it here because I handle several groups of clients with varied problems. I think that's a very good start. I plan to go the ICU or ER after several months of nursing experience.
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Congratulations to you for passing the NCLEX!!!

Once again, good luck to you!
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No. 22
from PsychRN03
Old Mar 13, 2008, 09:48 AM

Default Re: Attention: Philippines nurses - there is no nursing shortgae in America
Originally Posted by jonRNMD View Post
most American nurses have the impression that immigrant nurses are depressing wages and are more willing to work for less pay because most of them do not know the fact that immigrant nurses being petitioned for immigrant visas are being paid market-rate wages. it would be a federal offense for a hospital to pay an immigrant nurse lower salaries compared to american nurses. both have to receive market-rate wages.
but are foreign born nurses as likely as American nurses to negotiate, or do they take the initial "market-rate" offer? I know as an American nurse I never jump on the initial offer because I know that hospitals are lowballing a majority of the time. They make an offer; I make a counter-offer, and we go from there. Does the concept of negotiating even cross an immigrant's mind when they want to come over here or are they just tickled pink to be able to come to the States and make a comfortable wage?
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No. 23
from PsychRN03
Old Mar 13, 2008, 09:52 AM

Default Re: Attention: Philippines nurses - there is no nursing shortage in America
Originally Posted by lawrence01 View Post
*Moderator's note:

The thread is slightly getting off-topic already. In respect to the thread starter, I think we should go back to the main topic.

If any one feels that further discussion is needed regarding the off-topic subject, I think it would be best if someone starts a new thread for it. Thanks.
oops...my bad

so to the OP...yes you should come to America, but perhaps it is a good idea to learn the fine art of negotiation upon or prior to your arrival if you aren't familiar with negotiation already
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No. 24
Old Mar 14, 2008, 08:04 AM

Default Re: Attention: Philippines nurses - there is no nursing shortage in America
Originally Posted by psychrn03 View Post
oops...my bad

so to the OP...yes you should come to America, but perhaps it is a good idea to learn the fine art of negotiation upon or prior to your arrival if you aren't familiar with negotiation already
I understand that you see us as desperate enough to earn big bucks so we don't negotiate with potential employers but I would like to inform you that we do choose our employers carefully. We choose where we should be working and whom we should be working with.

I got an offer from a nursing facility in NY but I had to inquire from people I know. Many of them gave a negative feedback. I called my cousin who's in Cali and she said, the 26 dollars per hour is too low if I were to work in NY so I had to turn down the offer. I think that's a form of negotiation.

We do background checks on the different facilities through the net and some of our friends who went ahead. Just the same, I can't blame you for how you perceive us. I hope it will change.
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No. 25
Old Mar 14, 2008, 04:43 PM

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The American economy is in recession, as the recession tightens there will be more nurses returning to the bedside. Payment for hospitalizations is going down. I can understand the immigration department restricting the importing of nurses from foreign countries. I don't see many opening for newly graduated nurses and many places here in Boston only BSN need apply.
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No. 26
from PsychRN03
Old Mar 14, 2008, 10:41 PM

Default Re: Attention: Philippines nurses - there is no nursing shortage in America
Originally Posted by oneproudigorot View Post
I understand that you see us as desperate enough to earn big bucks so we don't negotiate with potential employers but I would like to inform you that we do choose our employers carefully. We choose where we should be working and whom we should be working with.
I did? I assure you I've never made any such assumptions. I simply asked questions because I have never been outside North America and thought it'd be interesting to learn something about other countries. I think it's a fair assumption that not all countries have a workforce that practices negotiation, but I also acknowledge that my assumption might not be correct.

So what I understand you are saying is that wage negotiation is a common practice in the Philippines?

The post you chose to quote was my attempt to return on-topic (as directed by lawrence01) while tying into my previous post since I think I'm kinda responsible for this thread going OT; and for that I apologize to you. I should have started a new thread.
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No. 27
from Bonjour
Old Mar 15, 2008, 11:00 AM

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To pinoy_guy,

One of the reasons why I am currently a nursing student is because of nurses like you: dependable, perfectionist (there is nothing wrong with that), reliable, great work ethic, and above all, real concern about your patients.
When I graduate and come across those kind of unprofessional nurses you discussed, I will make sure that I cover my behind i.e., everything are documented. So when a lawsuit comes up, I can defend myself during finger-pointing.
Just keep your nose clean, do what you need to do, be a perfectionist and do not lose your sense of humor.
Keep nurses proud.
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No. 28
from Bonjour
Old Mar 15, 2008, 11:09 AM

Default Re: Attention: Philippines nurses - there is no nursing shortage in America
Originally Posted by lawrence01 View Post
*Moderator's note:

The thread is slightly getting off-topic already. In respect to the thread starter, I think we should go back to the main topic...
Please accept my apology for being off-topic. I read your note after posting my last reply.
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No. 29
from GetaJob
Old Aug 31, 2008, 04:42 PM

Default Re: Attention: Philippines nurses - there is no nursing shortage in America
Well, despite whether there is a definite shortage of nurses in the US, one thing is for sure, it is extremely easy to find a job opening for a RN in a hospital. Both my parents are nurses, but particularly my dad has worked at several hospitals in his 12 years as a nurse. Of the times I remember, he was probably unemployed for no more than 2 weeks in between jobs.



I can only speak for California when i say that there is a definite shortage of nurses. Southern CA is a great place to migrate to, if you are a Filipino nurse hoping to come to America (like there aren't a lot of those nowadays ) Here in southern CA hostpials your bound to run into at least one Filipino, if not multiple! (I am Filipino btw, so i dont offend anyone)

In my opinion, native Filipinos are great candidates for nursing, due to the hard work and long hours. You see, being born in America by native Filipino parents, and growing up here in this day in age, I believe that the idea of the American dream has changed within the US. Its not about working hard and making good money, owning a house, picket fence etc. A lot of my young peers see the dream as trying to do the least amount of work and make the highest rate posssible.

Now the problem with this is that shortage of nursing attracts alot of these types of people who are trying to make a high rate with doing less work. This is why there are employees in the hostipal who take their hourly coffee breaks and find "shortcuts" for every aspect of their job.

All things considered, there is a shortage of hard working nurses here in CA, and in respect, as long as there are those people who don't like to work hard for their pay, there will always be a shortage.

Sorry if i got sidetracked, and i hope i answered your question, but im quite fervent about the topic and can talk/type for a long time about it.
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