A word of caution: AGENCIES - page 3

the time to check out an agency is before you sign the contract, not after. they are legally binding contracts and are not easily cancelled. and if you notice that many have large cancellation fees... Read More

  1. by   oobie
    hi! im planning to work in CA, agencies who recruit in the Philippines require 2 years of experience? Is it still necessary to have at least 1 year clinical experience? Other agencies do not require since a nurse will still be trained again to the new clinical set-up..

    Please have your say base on your experience.

    Thank you
  2. by   Silverdragon102
    Quote from oobie
    hi! im planning to work in CA, agencies who recruit in the Philippines require 2 years of experience? Is it still necessary to have at least 1 year clinical experience? Other agencies do not require since a nurse will still be trained again to the new clinical set-up..

    Please have your say base on your experience.

    Thank you
    most agencies require experience but usually with direct hire you can get a hospital to petition you without experience
  3. by   suzanne4
    Trade is what you do with items that you wish to sell, it should not be done with humans.

    Please be very careful with any agency, and check them out thoroughly before you sign anything. The time to do it is before, not after you sign as many have been doing lately.

    You should not expect to be trained again when you start to work in the US, you should have the basic skills already. And be able to build on those, they should need to be taught to you from the beginning.

    The problem with Home Health for many of you that are just coming over the US and are recent graduates and without any experience. You are going to be getting minimal training or orientation, you have had minimal amount in the area of assessment and this is what is going to have to be done very thorought on every client that you will be carrying for in their home. How can you have those skills to function on your own when you did not train for them in your country in the first place. You will be required to document on an assessment each shift, and all of the documentation will need to be submitted to your agency, and that gets sent onto government agencies in most cases.

    Not a good way to start if you have any choice.

    And for actual Bay Area, not in the South Bay; you are going to have problems surviving on that pay. That is well below the going rate in the actual Bay Area. And remember that taxes are still going to be taken out and in the Bay Area, they are quite high.
  4. by   rosesun
    thank you so much suzanne, i learned so much from that.
  5. by   BonesGilmore
    Quote from Silverdragon102
    most agencies require experience but usually with direct hire you can get a hospital to petition you without experience
    how can one have a hospital petition her? I mean, is it a tedious process? Would the hospital require much?
  6. by   Silverdragon102
    Quote from BonesGilmore
    how can one have a hospital petition her? I mean, is it a tedious process? Would the hospital require much?
    You contact the hospital you want to work or hospitals in the area you want to work and see if they are willing to petition you for a green card. Much better if you approach them already having passed NCLEX and english exams. Be aware with retrogression they may delay until they know what is happening regarding visas. Some hospitals will pay where others may want you to pay, that is something that you need to negotiate with them
  7. by   oobie
    have anybody heard about agency - Medliant, based in san mateo, CA?

    Please share info about them..
  8. by   suzanne4
    You are quite welcome.
  9. by   dotiegirl
    Quote from supermark99
    do i have the right to refuse to sign this new contract? and if i do not sign it, would it adversely affect the processing time of my papers? confused right now
    hi mark,

    first i'm not an attorney, but here's my take:
    i presume you've read the original contract thoroughly (the one that you've signed) i hope!
    normally, you are not obliged to sign the new "updated" contract, unless such is explicitly stipulated in the first/original contract that you've signed. so there's a possibility that you're not bound to pay the 20,000 but still tied to forfeiting the 10,000... with of course the risk of defaulting your processing due to non-signing of the updated contract.

    [color=gray](it smells like a trap, but it's better to make sure...)

    now this could be tricky as you don't want to be in 'breach' of the agreement and get into trouble, so review the original agreement again to be super sure and then let's re-weigh your options.

    hope this sheds some light.
  10. by   suzanne4
    Quote from dotiegirl
    hi mark,

    first i'm not an attorney, but here's my take:
    i presume you've read the original contract thoroughly (the one that you've signed) i hope!
    normally, you are not obliged to sign the new "updated" contract, unless such is explicitly stipulated in the first/original contract that you've signed. so there's a possibility that you're not bound to pay the 20,000 but still tied to forfeiting the 10,000... with of course the risk of defaulting your processing due to non-signing of the updated contract.

    [color=gray](it smells like a trap, but it's better to make sure...)

    now this could be tricky as you don't want to be in 'breach' of the agreement and get into trouble, so review the original agreement again to be super sure and then let's re-weigh your options.

    hope this sheds some light.

    you have left out one very important detail here and you may not even be aware of it. the nurse must present an updated contract when they have their interview. if it is not signed, then you do not get the ipdated one that is needed. the agency has you over a mountain and they know it. no updated contract signed, then they do not give you the updated one that is required for the interview, and there goes your green card.


    you then lose out on the green card that was reserved for you. we see this happen all of the time, and there are a few agencies that are well-known for doing this. if you have signed with one of these, they know that you have no choice but to sign it, especially if your interview is scheduled, or you automatically lose the chance to go to the us. and there are some that have an actual $45,000 cancellation clause in their contract.
  11. by   suzanne4
    Quote from oobie
    have anybody heard about agency - Medliant, based in san mateo, CA?

    Please share info about them..
    No hospitals petitioning in the Bay Area, this will not be for hospital assignments.

    Suggest that you thoroughly check out any agency, and specifically where you will be assigned to work. You need to have one facility that you are working at when you come to the US, you have no American experience. Or you will be at the top of the list to lose a license. We do things very differently in the US than you do in your country.

    Please be very careful with any agency.
  12. by   lenjoy03
    Thank you... I have a question. You said that the salary differs if the agency or hospital recruits you, right? Then, how can I find a hospital that will recruit me? Because of so many agency issue, I really dont know if I can trust them even if they're approved by the POEA or US.
  13. by   nursemavi
    Looking for a US hospital who will sponsor you is quite difficult if you are in the Philippines as I have tried calling hospitals in various states but they gave a negative answer or they will refer you to agencies which provide them foreign nurses from the Philippines.
    Last edit by suzanne4 on Jul 30, '07 : Reason: violation of the TOS of this site

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