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Can anyone provide me with feedback about working within the Advocate system? I'm looking at Good Shepherd and wanted to know the real scoop.... Read More

  1. Visit  joanekiser} profile page
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    i'm still tring to figure out their system of applying for positions on line! it seems so complicated! i see zero postings...can anyone help with this? thanks
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  3. Visit  MrChicagoRN} profile page
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    Quote from CCRNDiva
    I was very confused by the personality test they have you take before even interviewing you. The questions were very weird and I would think it would eliminate many qualified applicants because you have to pass the test to be considered for the job. None of the questions related to patient care or tested nursing knowledge.
    It's a customer focus, customer service test.

    The test is structured to not allow one to easily pick the obviously "right answer." That's why the questions are "very weird"

    They would likely tell you that it eliminates many less qualified candidates that would be unlikely to be a good fit in terms of being in alignment with their mission and values

    Agree or disagree, this is the route many organizations take.
  4. Visit  netglow} profile page
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    Not so secret secret about Adovcate: You will be told to formally apply and take the test... you will pass no matter what you click for answers -- that is, if you have a connection. It's all just for show, and allows them to "appear" to evaluate many applicants, and have reason to eliminate many applicants. If you fail, but get yourself some connections before your lock-out is up, well then, that test somehow is not important anymore, and no longer bears weight.
  5. Visit  kellyc034} profile page
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    Actually, a PCT I worked with had to take the personality test when she passed NCLEX and became an RN. She failed and had to find a job elsewhere as an RN, even though she had been there a year or more.

    Kelly
  6. Visit  netglow} profile page
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    Yup, they didn't want her, and that was a way out for them.
  7. Visit  CCRNDiva} profile page
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    Quote from MrChicagoRN
    It's a customer focus, customer service test.

    The test is structured to not allow one to easily pick the obviously "right answer." That's why the questions are "very weird"

    They would likely tell you that it eliminates many less qualified candidates that would be unlikely to be a good fit in terms of being in alignment with their mission and values

    Agree or disagree, this is the route many organizations take.
    How are you supposed to pick between purposeful, prompt and considerate as what most and least describes you as a critical care RN? You should be all of those things; who wants a nurse who would least describe themselves purposeful, prompt or considerate? Then they ask how often have you called off in the last 6 months and the last year. So either you lie and say never or you admit an unscheduled absence to attend a funeral or truly being ill? Should that disqualify you from getting a job even though you are a strong nurse and an asset to a team? How do you quantify statements like "I rely on the help of others to do my job"? Answer rarely and you're not a team player because, truthfully, while critical care nursing provides a certain level of autonomy, it also requires a strong team of players. I rely on my colleagues on a daily basis, so if I respond that I depend on them often, will I be labeled as lazy and unable to keep up?

    These types of tests eliminate qualified candidates when used without the context of an interview that would provide the applicant with an opportunity to describe their nursing care, skills, strengths and weaknesses.
  8. Visit  netglow} profile page
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    I have not interviewed with them but I passed the test.

    You must take it as if you are not experienced - not a Chief. You, are a little indian. This no matter what your background or expertise is.

    You must approach each question like a wild-eyed innocent. So, you answer those do people come to you for help type questions as "sometimes" never answer often. Everything else must be answered as if you were a drone with no gumption or personality or independence. Yours is to be seen and not heard. Yours is to obey.

    Trust me, you'll pass if you take the test in this way.
  9. Visit  joanekiser} profile page
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    too funny
  10. Visit  ChartShart} profile page
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    You will notice when you take this test that a lot of the questions are similar. All you need to do to pass is answer them consistently the same.
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  11. Visit  MDRNBSN} profile page
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    @ ChartShart,

    If you have taken the assessment and get a message that states that you will be considered for patient contact positions, dies that mean that you are moving on to the next step in the reviewing process? Thanks in advance for you response.
  12. Visit  netglow} profile page
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    No it doesn't. It just means you have passed the test, and should not have to take it again. If you were offered the test it means that you might have applied fast enough to be globally "considered" They ususally will send you an email letting you know that "You are being considered for XX position", then you have to wait to be contacted.
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  13. Visit  RUBY2623RN} profile page
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    Quote from netglow
    No it doesn't. It just means you have passed the test, and should not have to take it again. If you were offered the test it means that you might have applied fast enough to be globally "considered" They ususally will send you an email letting you know that "You are being considered for XX position", then you have to wait to be contacted.
    Thank you Netglow, I really want to work for the advocate system, this information is very appreciated.
  14. Visit  KaLynRN} profile page
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    Quote from netglow
    Not so secret secret about Adovcate: You will be told to formally apply and take the test... you will pass no matter what you click for answers -- that is, if you have a connection. It's all just for show, and allows them to "appear" to evaluate many applicants, and have reason to eliminate many applicants. If you fail, but get yourself some connections before your lock-out is up, well then, that test somehow is not important anymore, and no longer bears weight.
    Hi-reviving this thread.

    I just took the Personality Test and failed. Never failed one before. I called HR and a rep is going to call me back re: this. I'm hoping to re-rest.

    Question-what does Netglow mean by needing a connection and a "lock-out" time?

    Crossing fingers I can retest and not have to wait 6 months. I have never been accused of not being good enough to access a patient care position, it makes me feel horrible!


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