Nurse vs. Not

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    Is it just me, or is there a flux of non-nurses posting strong opinions on the boards lately?

    Not sure what the rules on this are exactly, but I will say, I dont plan on renewing my Premium membership because of this. When I first came here, either these types were more rare, were around but.......knew their place, or I just didnt detect them as well as now. But, whatever the case may be, I find myself becoming more and more annoyed by them lately.

    As I stated, when I was new here, this wasnt an issue so much. I liked the fact that this was considered a board for nurses. Its not so anymore. I get the same poor attitudes on the boards that I see in the general public with regards to nursing. Allnurses has ceased to be an oasis for nurses to discuss things that only other nurses understand. What's in it for me to remain an active member anymore? I can be told I should have more sympathy for drug addicts and be able to handle outrageous assignment loads for free anywhere. No need to get that from here.

    This is very nursing related. How you say? Well, I think this issue reflects something that has sabotaged/compromised nursing's position in society. Is the fact that so many non-nursing individuals have a say in nursing's routines/philosophies not part of the reason we are considered low level labor instead of professionals? This site has become a mirror image of that issue.

    I've seen doctors try to float it in here that nurses have no ground to stand on when they complain about verbal abuse from other doctors. Even tried to promote such behavior until more assertive types got him outta here.

    I've seen patients go out of their way to lop the head of nurses who argue nursing is a profession and does not require one to have "a calling".

    I've even seen recruiters (travel company) come in and complain about how little their companies make and try to point the finger at nurses for this.

    Isnt there a site for these people to talk to peers instead of us at? All these people are given the same consideration by staff that we as nurses (and the rightful members) get. This should not be the case. Its one thing if a couple nurses disagree on an issue, but its a whole different beast when a non-nurse comes in and tries to dispell what we have to say. We as nurses often have our voices muted/stolen from us in the public forum. Why is it becoming acceptable here too?

    I hate people who complain but cant offer any solutions/suggestions for a better way. So here is mine. Create a portion of the board that is for nurses only. Require license verification for access to the site. That way, people like me who are done being told what to thing and are ready to voice an opinion can do so without fear of having to defend themselves from someone with no place even posting an opinion on the matter (not here at least).

    It is time to stop being bullied.
    Last edit by eriksoln on May 26, '09

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    Interesting point of view. Am sure you will find others in agreement.
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    i understand your frustration, although it may be beneficial to stop worrying about how your profession is perceived and learn to command respect for the profession through your personal actions. learn to enjoy your life in your world and not in the world's perception. i was caught in that trap and found i was much happier not worrying about others preconceptions and ended up blossoming after letting go. as for the forums, its about the same as choosing a tv show, if i don't like what i see, i change the channel.. sometimes responding to aggitating posters just makes them feel better about what their doing. i hope not to offend or anger you, just my pov hun.
    flightnurse2b, NewbieEDRN, and 2BSure like this.
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    I gotta admit, I haven't had as much time to play on allnurses, lately, as in the past, but I haven't noticed the trend to OP mentions. There have always been some non-nurses, and yes, some don't know a code brown from apple butter, but I don't think it's always bad to get an outsider's perspective. One of my coping stratagies for PITA family members at work is trying to see things from their point-of-view. Another is just ignoring them. Neither is foolproof, but both have, at times, worked, and I think both could apply here.

    Not often, but occassionally, I've been offended by the opinions of ignorant rubes--er, I mean, the lay public. My usual solution has been to get right down in the mud with 'em. One of my mantras at work has been: "Well, if they wanted a good nurse, they should have hired one." I guess that can apply to allnurses members, as well. Still, we do have the option of reporting offensive posts to the mods. As far as I can recall, having a stupid opinion doesn't violate the ToS, or I'd have been banned long ago, but I know for a fact reports don't go unnoticed.

    Personally, I'd hate to see a lively, active member bail, but I gotta admit, taking an occassional "vacation" might not be a terrible thing. From time to time, I've gotten so caught up in the boards that it came to feel more like work than recreation, and work, as I'm sure we all know, sucks. Plus, I've got a new fly rod I need to try out.

    Looking at it from a male nurse's perspective, maybe we just need a button that, once or twice a year, would allow us to track another poster down in their home life and beat the crap out of them. Hmm. Or maybe not.

    ETA: It is not my intention to suggest that female nurses would not like to track people down and beat the crap out of them. In fact, that very possibility has given me pause to reevaluate my suggestion.
    Last edit by nursemike on May 26, '09
    Elvish, cardiacRN2006, talaxandra, and 9 others like this.
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    Quote from nursemike
    I gotta admit, I haven't had as much time to play on allnurses, lately, as in the past, but I haven't noticed the trend to OP mentions. There have always been some non-nurses, and yes, some don't know a code brown from apple butter, but I don't think it's always bad to get an outsider's perspective. One of my coping stratagies for PITA family members at work is trying to see things from their point-of-view. Another is just ignoring them. Neither is foolproof, but both have, at times, worked, and I think both could apply here.

    Not often, but occassionally, I've been offended by the opinions of ignorant rubes--er, I mean, the lay public. My usual solution has been to get right down in the mud with 'em. One of my mantras at work has been: "Well, if they wanted a good nurse, they should have hired one." I guess that can apply to allnurses members, as well. Still, we do have the option of reporting offensive posts to the mods. As far as I can recall, having a stupid opinion doesn't violate the ToS, or I'd have been banned long ago, but I know for a fact reports don't go unnoticed.

    Personally, I'd hate to see a lively, active member bail, but I gotta admit, taking an occassional "vacation" might not be a terrible thing. From time to time, I've gotten so caught up in the boards that it came to feel more like work than recreation, and work, as I'm sure we all know, sucks. Plus, I've got a new fly rod I need to try out.

    Looking at it from a male nurse's perspective, maybe we just need a button that, once or twice a year, would allow us to track another poster down in their home life and beat the crap out of them. Hmm. Or maybe not.
    I'd have been dead a year ago if such an option existed. With my luck, I'd end up on the trauma unit of the very nurse who pushed the button on me.
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    Im sorry, I must be too non-controversial for this thread, I try to be the happy mama to everyone. If theres a debate I'd offer to make hot chocolate. Silly me.
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    Quote from eriksoln
    I'd have been dead a year ago if such an option existed. With my luck, I'd end up on the trauma unit of the very nurse who pushed the button on me.
    Yeah, that occured to me, too. Well, not the trauma nurse part. Excellent point. [Helpful and innovative suggestion withdrawn].
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    Quote from DandyAndi06
    Im sorry, I must be too non-controversial for this thread, I try to be the happy mama to everyone. If theres a debate I'd offer to make hot chocolate. Silly me.
    I liked your post actually.

    Live according to how you see the world, not how the world see's you. Thats what I took from it anyway.

    Funny, but it is a stark contrast almost to my fav. saying "We are defined by what we do, not the reasons for what we do." That saying relies heavily on others points of view. I think a balance between our two approaches would indeed create a healthy lifestyle.

    This is turning into a philosophy class. Is there a philosophy teacher here? Oh, wait, my original point was that there are too many non-nurses. N/M.
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    Well my dear is your choice and freedom. I will tell you one single think that I observed here in my short RN path in US. We people generally speaking, we are not complainant with somenthing WITHOUT rules. Always someone will try to stab back another one, to look in another backyard, to steel, to have, to own....is a basic behavior. Education helped somehow... but the only think that really helepd is THE RULE. AN HAS RULES! Good or bad, acceptable or not, AN has rules. Like it or not... your choice. RULES are good.

    I worked here in US in nursing evironments with rules and without rules . Do you think that ME ZUZI the most free in heart and soul woman ever, I accepted easy the rules? Not at all! But I obey them because... is much more safe like that.

    Non-nursing people start to come here...is good.... NOW, we can have a REAL perception about WHO we really are, US THE NURSES, how people see us.

    I would like also a flower power world, free and full of love and hapiness...reality is not like that at all. Reality is full of addicted nurses and not only, full of patinets always unhappy with good reasons, full of nurses that lossed the sense of their own identity, are few and few nurses working for pleasure to be nurse... we work for money honey!

    I don't like me too to live in a money world BUT i like my pedicuriste and my massage therapist, and I like when my family is safe and I could go with my girlfriends out and laugh and spend damn money ....and be happy.
    Negativity YES sucks!

    People are all over the same....
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    I agree with almost all of your original post, except the last thought. In the interests of privacy, there is no way I would give my license number to join. There are too many money hungry attorneys who would just love to subpoena these so-called anonymous thoughts and use them against us. Other than that, I am right there witcha!
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