Licensed Nurses Only - page 11

I just wanted to run this up the flagpole and see what response i got. How many of you on here believe that this site should be limited to only licensed nurses? No patients,no wanna be nurses and no... Read More

  1. Visit  metal_m0nk profile page
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    Quote from wwfd
    and for the record i don't think how long i have been a member here should be a factor in whether i can voice an opinion or start a discussion.
    Of course you don't, dear...

    Whatever criticisms others have of you should never be a factor.

    You wouldn't want to feel EXCLUDED.

    /facepalm
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  3. Visit  JacobK profile page
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    Quote from wwfd
    The irony here is you are bashing me for trying to exclude some people because of their lack of experience but the make note of my short time on this site as disqualifying me from having an opinion. logic much?
    I am not disqualifying you from having an opinion, I am disqualifying your opinion. Subtle difference, but it's there.
    You are the one trying to disqualify a large portion of users from being allowed to voice their opinion. You will find that I never claim that you should not be allowed to post, or be kept out of this site in any way, markedly different from what you propose.

    Quote from wwfd
    and for the record i don't think how long i have been a member here should be a factor in whether i can voice an opinion or start a discussion. "that being said" i have been a member here for several years but left for awhile and then came back and could not remember username so i just started with a new one.
    does that give me the right to voice a opinion, can i be a member of the club now?
    Again, in no way am I saying that you should not be allowed to post, or voice your opinion, only that I believe your opinion is wrong. You are trying to take away from others the very right that you now are becoming defensive about.

    Quote from wwfd
    i started this discussion with no hostile thought or agenda. i truly wanted feedback on how other nurses here felt about this issue, and instead for the most part i have been insulted and told i had not been a member here long enough or that i was a burnout.
    so fine, i give. things should stay just like they are and i will go back to rarely coming to this site. and to all the posters who bashed me for starting this discussion....well you win.
    Sorry, but I find the proposal of mass purging of users from such a useful, and information rich forum to be hostile.

    Quote from SpEdtacular
    I think most of us took your question at face value. As Joanna73 said there's no inflection when reading a post and some people tend to read too much into things, take them personally, and get defensive. They have narcissistic traits if you will.
    At face value the question is should many people who have benefited from this site be banned, and should we keep many more who could benefit from ever being allowed access.
  4. Visit  SpEdtacular profile page
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    Quote from JacobK
    I am not disqualifying you from having an opinion, I am disqualifying your opinion. Subtle difference, but it's there.
    You are the one trying to disqualify a large portion of users from being allowed to voice their opinion. You will find that I never claim that you should not be allowed to post, or be kept out of this site in any way, markedly different from what you propose.



    Again, in no way am I saying that you should not be allowed to post, or voice your opinion, only that I believe your opinion is wrong. You are trying to take away from others the very right that you now are becoming defensive about.



    Sorry, but I find the proposal of mass purging of users from a forum hostile.



    At face value the question is should many people who have benefited from this site be banned, and should we keep many more who could benefit from ever being allowed access.
    No that is your interpretation of the question. What was I saying about narcissistic traits
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  5. Visit  metal_m0nk profile page
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    Quote from JacobK
    I am not disqualifying you from having an opinion, I am disqualifying your opinion.
    +1 for logic.
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  6. Visit  JacobK profile page
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    Quote from SpEdtacular
    No that is your interpretation of the question. What was I saying about narcissistic traits
    I believe I've quoted this post before:
    Quote from wwfd
    I just wanted to run this up the flagpole and see what response i got. How many of you on here believe that this site should be limited to only licensed nurses? No patients,no wanna be nurses and no nursing students. Should these be truly a site where nurses can come and vent with no fear of being scolded for being "mean" or "burned out". Would it make this a better site?
    Patients, wannabe nurses, and nursing students find this site useful. OP is suggesting all of those people be banned. They will no longer be able to benefit from the site. This is not interpretation or reading into the question, only cause and effect.

    As to "narcissistic traits", I'm not quite certain what you are referring to. If it is the "selfish" desire that I would like to remain part of this forum and continue to learn from it, and in turn try to help others, then yes I am guilty of displaying "narcissistic traits".
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  7. Visit  Ruby Vee profile page
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    Quote from tikilpn2
    all nurses especially seasoned nurses should remember where they come from; how they were students, wanna-be-nurses, patients, and novice nurses at one time. this site can be used as a learning tool for nursing students and informative for patients seeking the nurses point of view or insight...remember to be thankful for your license it is a privilege and honorable but does not make one better than anyone else
    i wonder what makes you think we don't remember where we came from. i remember vividly where i came from and the experiences of being a student or a terrified newbie. i've been there. you, however, have never been an experienced nurse admonished repeatedly by those who have no idea what it's like to be a real nurse. and that has nothing to do with being better than anyone else.
  8. Visit  SpEdtacular profile page
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    The OP is asking if people think non nurses should be banned and whether doing so would make the site better. She isn't saying this site should only be for nurses shouldn't it? That's how you're reading it. She's looking for opinions. This was your chance to point out the positive aspects of the site's dynamic membership and convince her that having non nurses is good by stating why you feel the way you feel. Instead you're taking it as a personal affront and becoming defensive as if her intention was to have you banned while others' sarcastic and juvenile responses are reinforcing the idea maybe it would be better without them.
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  9. Visit  metal_m0nk profile page
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    Quote from SpEdtacular
    The OP is asking if people think non nurses should be banned and whether doing so would make the site better. She isn't saying this site should only be for nurses shouldn't it? That's how you're reading it. She's looking for opinions. This was your chance to point out the positive aspects of the site's dynamic membership and convince her that having non nurses is good by stating why you feel the way you feel. Instead you're taking it as a personal affront and becoming defensive as if her intention was to have you banned while others' sarcastic and juvenile responses are reinforcing the idea maybe it would be better without them.
    Quote from wwfd
    you are bashing me for trying to exclude some people because of their lack of experience...
    It isn't such a far fetched assumption.
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  10. Visit  hiddencatRN profile page
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    Quote from SpEdtacular
    The OP is asking if people think non nurses should be banned and whether doing so would make the site better. She isn't saying this site should only be for nurses shouldn't it? That's how you're reading it. She's looking for opinions. This was your chance to point out the positive aspects of the site's dynamic membership and convince her that having non nurses is good by stating why you feel the way you feel. Instead you're taking it as a personal affront and becoming defensive as if her intention was to have you banned while others' sarcastic and juvenile responses are reinforcing the idea maybe it would be better without them.
    It's interesting that you are so stuck on the interpretation of the OP's post when you also characterize the responses in this thread as sarcastic and juvenile. A few were, but most were simply disagreeing opinions. It seems to me that the only thing that's been reinforced by the thread is that most people don't want the site to be for licensed nurses only. A few wouldn't mind a closed forum with the rest of the site as is. A few people agreed with the OP. A few people took personal offense, and a few posters posted out the irony of wanting to police the site membership as an APPARENTLY new member.

    Overall, the OP got what she wanted: opinions. And differing opinions is not the same thing as flaming, attacking, bashing, or being defensive.
  11. Visit  SpEdtacular profile page
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    Quote from triquee
    It isn't such a far fetched assumption.
    But it's still an assumption.
  12. Visit  JacobK profile page
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    Quote from SpEdtacular
    The OP is asking if people think non nurses should be banned and whether doing so would make the site better. She isn't saying this site should only be for nurses shouldn't it? That's how you're reading it. She's looking for opinions. This was your chance to point out the positive aspects of the site's dynamic membership and convince her that having non nurses is good by stating why you feel the way you feel.
    Quote from JacobK
    I know this site was indispensable not only for getting a feeling about nursing and what the job entails but also helping me get into a program.

    Brian, the site's creator, was a student nurse when he started the forum.
    http://allnurses.com/general-nursing...as-505687.html

    Quote from SpEdtacular
    Instead you're taking it as a personal affront and becoming defensive as if her intention was to have you banned while others' sarcastic and juvenile responses are reinforcing the idea maybe it would be better without them.
    What exactly should I believe the intention of a thread titled "Licensed Nurses Only" and the phrase "No patients,no wanna be nurses and no nursing students."?

    Somehow I get the feeling she doesn't want them around...
  13. Visit  SpEdtacular profile page
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    Quote from hiddencatRN
    It's interesting that you are so stuck on the interpretation of the OP's post when you also characterize the responses in this thread as sarcastic and juvenile. A few were, but most were simply disagreeing opinions. It seems to me that the only thing that's been reinforced by the thread is that most people don't want the site to be for licensed nurses only. A few wouldn't mind a closed forum with the rest of the site as is. A few people agreed with the OP. A few people took personal offense, and a few posters posted out the irony of wanting to police the site membership as an APPARENTLY new member.

    Overall, the OP got what she wanted: opinions. And differing opinions is not the same thing as flaming, attacking, bashing, or being defensive.
    I was not characterizing ALL of the posts that way and In fact I pointed out to the OP that MOST PEOPLE took her question at face value and gave an opinion but a FEW people took it personally.

    I started here as a student too. I think the site should stay the same and who knows maybe some of the opinions expressed changed the OP's mind. Stranger things have happened. Lighten up.
  14. Visit  metal_m0nk profile page
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    Quote from SpEdtacular
    But it's still an assumption.
    Most things are. I don't know anyone who reads minds with any real accuracy or consistency so all most people have to go on is the impression others give.

    The OP can back-peddle as much as she likes, but her message is clear.
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