Suicide

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    I am wondering how many of my hospice colleagues have experienced the suicide of a patient.

    How supportive was your employer following the event?

    I recently experienced this loss and was taken aback at how significantly it affected me. My employer was fabulous and proactive.
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    yes, i've experienced it a couple of times.
    can't go into detail, but it did affect me, moreso than them dying from their disease.
    yet, its effects didn't linger with me.
    they chose their destiny in the best way they saw fit.
    and for that, i was ok with it.

    leslie
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    how did your employer support you in the days immediately following the suicide, Leslie?
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    how did your employer support you in the days immediately following the suicide, Leslie?
    they found coverage and gave me a few days off.
    and, offered all support services available (licsw, bereavement, chaplain).
    i just needed to reflect, absorb and process.

    i wasn't all that surprised with either one.
    i was just surprised that it happened in an inpatient facility.
    i probably said too much already.

    leslie
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    I ask because my employer also immediately activated a "bereavement" team to speak with the disciplines who had been visiting this patient and then offered me time off.

    I have a friend who experienced the same thing perhaps 2 months ago...the response from her employer was..."wow, that is too bad....we have an admission for you this afternoon and remember, you are on call this weekend"...
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    Quote from tewdles
    I have a friend who experienced the same thing perhaps 2 months ago...the response from her employer was..."wow, that is too bad....we have an admission for you this afternoon and remember, you are on call this weekend"...
    i've encountered sev'l hospices like that, tewdles.
    it's not just the employees they treat like that, it's the pts as well.

    it's so very sad and infuriating.,

    leslie
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    Quote from tewdles
    I ask because my employer also immediately activated a "bereavement" team to speak with the disciplines who had been visiting this patient and then offered me time off.

    I have a friend who experienced the same thing perhaps 2 months ago...the response from her employer was..."wow, that is too bad....we have an admission for you this afternoon and remember, you are on call this weekend"...
    Must be the same huge mega-hospice corporation I work for.......we had an employee commit suicide and everyone was expected to carry on like nothing happened.
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    Must be the same huge mega-hospice corporation I work for.......we had an employee commit suicide and everyone was expected to carry on like nothing happened.
    yep, i remember that post.

    i know i've told this story and i apologize for the repeat, but it is appropriate here:
    that i was asked to help head a committee in soliciting new hospice pts.
    the very first ltc facility we went to, 'they' were going through the charts, and assigning many residents to hospice, only based on documentation.
    meanwhile, the med'l dir is sitting there, nearly salivating while rubbing his hands together...
    at the prospect of having overfilled beds with a waiting line, to boot.

    it was a meat market and i was horrified.
    i don't know about you, but i would never consider potential hospice pts, based only on a 10% wt loss in 6 months.
    there was absolutely no regard for the person and how they presented.
    it was only based on stats and data.

    i walked out that day.

    and have encountered other hospices that put $$ ahead of anyone and anything else.

    ugh...i feel sickened just thinking about it.

    leslie
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    Quote from tencat
    Must be the same huge mega-hospice corporation I work for.......we had an employee commit suicide and everyone was expected to carry on like nothing happened.
    omg tencat, that is horrible!

    My friend actually doesn't work for a huge hospice...she works for a hospice run by a largish catholic health system.
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    I've never had a patient, that I know of, commit suicide. I have had them say they were going to...but they never did. Actually, I'm surprised more of them DON'T commit suicide...not that I think they should, just that I would certainly understand why they would. I'm not sure how I would feel if one actually did. In any case, I think the very best thing an employer could do is offer counseling, and time off for those directly involved in the patient's care.


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