Managing symptoms for a "good death" - page 29

found at nursing 2006: november 2006 volume 36 number 11 pages 58 - 63 managing symptoms for a "good death" marylou kouch aprn, bc, msn contact hours: 2.5* expires: 11/30/2008... Read More

  1. by   powerflash
    HELLO! Yes Atropine dosage at this point in time are too low.I've given more in the last hours of death and it does help,ALOT!!!!! Our Medical Director knows we do it,but there is no written order. Cancer.org give .4ml sq ever 15 min. How can "WE" get this info out and help more pt.s have a more peaceful death?? I hope y'all will talk this out with me. Thanks
  2. by   bunsterj
    I was hoping to read the article, didn't care about the CEU's. Found that the article was nearly $8 at this time. I do realize this is an old thread.
  3. by   req_read
    Hi Leslie…
    Referring back to page 36, Post # 353 of this thread…
    I’ve been thinking about this, for a year and a half or so (referring to your comment, “it's all good.
    it's really, all good.”)
    It’s making more sense to me now, I think, but has left me wondering what your response might be to a question.
    Now first let me say, I would not ask most people this question… but you, I would… because your answer, should you choose to give one, would be felt as opposed to learned. Nor do I think you would be cowed by the question… although I realize that posting it here might be a horse of a different color.
    Anyway, the relevance of the following question to a thread addressing “good death” is core, so here it is: What is the purpose of life? (Meaning “life” in the rather limited sense of a temporary earthly experience.)
    Or the question might be stated thusly:
    What are we doing here? What did we come here for? What is the point? What is there to gain? Why go to all this trouble?
    Warmly,
    Michael
  4. by   knurse8
    "I did a PRN visit one night for a youngish woman with lung Ca using TD Scop for routine symptom management, she got a bit dry and developed mucous plugs with some significant atelectasis. She didn't want to go to the ER so I stayed with her and accomplished quite a bit of pulmonary toilet and got her comfortable again. (thank the LORD for my NICU/PICU days)"

    "pulmonary toilet" I am trying to picture what this is?
    Would you kindly elaborate?
    Last edit by knurse8 on Dec 13, '11
  5. by   knurse8
    RE: Twedles reply no 363

    "pulmonary toilet" this has been racking my brain and producing strange images.
    Would you kindly elaborate?
  6. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from req_read
    Hi Leslie...
    Referring back to page 36, Post # 353 of this thread...
    I've been thinking about this, for a year and a half or so (referring to your comment, "it's all good.
    it's really, all good.")
    It's making more sense to me now, I think, but has left me wondering what your response might be to a question.
    Now first let me say, I would not ask most people this question... but you, I would... because your answer, should you choose to give one, would be felt as opposed to learned. Nor do I think you would be cowed by the question... although I realize that posting it here might be a horse of a different color.
    Anyway, the relevance of the following question to a thread addressing "good death" is core, so here it is: What is the purpose of life? (Meaning "life" in the rather limited sense of a temporary earthly experience.)
    Or the question might be stated thusly:
    What are we doing here? What did we come here for? What is the point? What is there to gain? Why go to all this trouble?
    Warmly,
    Michael
    oh my gosh, michael...tonight is the very first time i have read your post.
    the only reason i came to this forum, is because i noticed that someone had posted on it.
    it was only reading through the last page that i realized you asked me this question 1.5 yrs ago.

    admittedly, i became a tad overwhelmed with your question...
    yet you have already touched on the reason for feeling as i do:
    it is because i lack the capacity in verbal articulation...it is too much of an intellectual process for me, and my mind just does not work that way.
    it is only my senses that convey a feeling of right/wrong, good/evil, etc.
    moving onward - i just cannot answer your question right now.
    it is a question that i ponder on a daily basis, trying to make sense of it all.
    there is much i accept, where others probably do not...
    such as pain and suffering, both physical and mental.
    i fully believe there are energetic forces present that influence all human actions on earth...contrast with a yin/yang principle.
    how these energies manifest themselves alone, and/or in combination with human thought, feeling, along with other energetic occurences (natural phenomena)...
    one needs to consider how ea acts alone, and then how ea force synergizes one's potential...
    and finally, what it means...or what it's supposed to mean or achieve.

    just know that i am acknowledging your question and i will get back to you one way or the other.
    i don't know when but you won't have to wait 1.5 yrs...i promise you.
    this is especially challenging for me, as you have already sensed.
    to try and even attempt an answer - well, it may prove impossible...but for you, i will indeed try.

    leslie xo
  7. by   NRSKarenRN
    Quote from knurse8
    RE: Twedles reply no 363

    "pulmonary toilet" this has been racking my brain and producing strange images.
    Would you kindly elaborate?
    Pulmonary Toilet? Huh??? - Page 2 - Nursing for Nurses

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