The meeting went awful, I'm job hunting

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Specializes in OB, M/S, HH, Medical Imaging RN.

The owner of the company came to the office today to hear our concerns about the sudden switch to pay per visit. We were told she was doing this to help put our minds at ease in an effort to keep from losing nurses. Boy were we misinformed!

She comes in, sits down, passes out an information sheet to everyone. The information goes like this:

For meeting time you will be paid the rate of one regular visit minus 25% the length of the meeting is not taken into consideration you will only receive the one amount regardless of the length of the meeting.

Any office time is already figured into the pay rate of the visits.

If you are stuck in traffic for a wreck, construction or road work you will not be compensated. You need to plan ahead.

Dropping off labs at the hospital will not paid, that time is already figured into the pay rate of the visits.

If you have computer problems that are keeping you in the office you will not be paid for that time.

The reason for these changes? One nurse with excessive OT. Hey someone deal with her please...don't punish all the nurses for the actions of one. Also excessive visits by SN. Hello....the care manager and DON set those frequencies. We have told them we felt they were excessive. When you're in the home saying to yourself "why in the heck am I here" is a darn good clue that the visits need to be decreased!

I could not believe what I was hearing. I'm no longer Home Health Happy. I assured them I would give a 2 weeks notice. I'm soooo saddened by all of this. I felt as though I'd be working there until I retired, a mere 12 years.

people who make decisions have no idea about what goes on...do they really think that a decrease in pay is going to result in some happy nurses??

pick up your pride and find something else..i would rather take a whipping than hunt for a job but it happens good luck

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If you are stuck in traffic for a wreck, construction or road work you will not be compensated. You need to plan ahead.

Ok, so next Tuesday there will be a 5 car pile up on the freeway, so i should leave 3 hours early......:rolleyes:

That sounds about as rational as the one employer i had that told us "if you're going to be sick on Christmas, you need to let someone know two weeks ahead of time."

what is wrong with people!!!!! run off good nurses and keep the dead weight!!! give your notice, that meeting you all had makes NO sense at all....i also hate when no one speaks up, i am like you , the one that opens my mouth, and i say "i am just saying what everyone else is thinking" and they still don't open their mouths! well best of luck to you, not all pay per visit agencies are like that one, we are paid per visit, but they take your hourly rate and 1.5 it for a regular visit, anthing with oasis is 2.0, office time is paid hourly and hourly for anything that is long travel like that 5 car pile up that you can't avoid.....every day i am amazed at the things i hear, .... good luck to you

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What pay modifications is the manager getting, since you are so overbudget?

Wow. Just Wow.

Specializes in OB, M/S, HH, Medical Imaging RN.

I tendered my resignation today and gave a 2 week notice. I feel sad about leaving a job that I really love.

Specializes in OB, M/S, HH, Medical Imaging RN.
What pay modifications is the manager getting, since you are so overbudget?

None! and neither is anyone else. We were told that this has only affected nursing. When one of the nurses asked how PT and PTA's were handling the change the owner said "well they are not on per visit because they don't have any overtime issues". I think in the end the owner will be very sorry about her sudden decisions. I said "if you don't have any nurses, who will see the patients?". There's always nurses she answered. Yeah, right.

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First of all, good for you for sticking up for yourself. Feels good, don't it? Second, honey you went to school too long and worked too hard for that degree to have some idiot:angryfire like that taking YOUR money that YOU earned. Find a better job. Good luck.;)

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mulled this over in my head whle at work today. definately think call to office of wage enforcement in your state needed to run situation past them.

us gov: wages

the department of labor enforces the fair labor standards act (flsa), which sets basic minimum wage and overtime pay standards. these standards are enforced by the department's wage and hour division, a program of the employment standards administration.

the flsa does not, however, require severance pay, sick leave, vacations, or holidays.

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extra pay for working weekends or nights is a matter of agreement between the employer and the employee (or the employee's representative). the flsa does not require extra pay for weekend or night work or double time pay.

fact sheet #17n: nurses and the part 541 exemptions under the flsa

for more information regarding the fair labor standards act, visit the wage and hour division's web site at www.wagehour.dol.gov or call our toll-free help line, available 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. in your time zone, at 1-866-4us-wage (1-866-487-9243).

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None! and neither is anyone else. We were told that this has only affected nursing since we had the one nurse who had 40 hours overtime consistently with every check for the past 2-3 months. She supposedly had been counseled each time. When one of the nurses asked how PT and PTA's were handling the change the owner said "well they are not on per visit because they don't have any overtime issues". I think in the end the owner will be very sorry about her sudden decisions. I said "if you don't have any nurses, who will see the patients?". There's always nurses she answered. I don't know what she's been smoking because that just ain't happening. They're in a big hurt right now.

This really stinks and I'm sorry you have to go thru this crapola. They are blaming the whole mess on that one nurse and she did have something to do with it BUT, she cannot be the entire reason for the switch.

Those buttfaces just want you guys to think that so you'll be mad at her and not them.

It sounds like most agencies do the per visit thing and I guess that is not very lucrative for the nurse. I don't think I could pay my bills if my agency did it.

So, are you looking for another HH job? Or back to the hospital?

Good luck hun!

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