How is this not HIPAA?????
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by jrwest Jan 25ok were supposed to be going to bedside report, which is a joke in itself to make the pt feel like a special snowflake, I guess??? Anyhow, if we are in semiprivate rooms with family members all over the place, how is this NOT a violation?????
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Jan 26 by MunoRNI agree it would be easier to do away with bedside reports and double rooms if it were a violation, but it's not. HIPAA only requires that you make reasonable attempts to ensure privacy. Really, the roommate has always gotten full story on the patient they're sharing a room with. The get admitted, the admitting Nurse goes over their whole story with them in earshot of everyone else. The Doc comes in and does their H&P, also within earshot of everyone else. It's always been like this, bedside report doesn't really change that.GrnTea likes this. - Jan 26 by MrChicagoRNQuote from jrwestok were supposed to be going to bedside report, which is a joke in itself to make the pt feel like a special snowflake, I guess??? Anyhow, if we are in semiprivate rooms with family members all over the place, how is this NOT a violation?????
Yes, it is a violation.
Family members need to be told to step outside during report.barbyann likes this. -
Jan 26 by iluvivtYes that is correct! I try to keep the visitors out of the room though because even if the pt has allowed family and friends to know about their PHI,the other patient has not.jrwest likes this. - Jan 26 by jrwestQuote from iluvivtAhhhh, that's a good point!!Yes that is correct! I try to keep the visitors out of the room though because even if the pt has allowed family and friends to know about their PHI,the other patient has not.GrnTea likes this.
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Jan 26 by nurse2033I agree, HIPAA violation. Giving report outside the room would be a reasonable precaution. Just because you are sharing a room does not mean everything should be shared. Some privacy is lost, but the hospital should take steps to minimize the amount.GrnTea likes this. - Jan 27 by jrwestWe were told we can not give report outside of the room. The pt has to be directly involved.
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Jan 27 by mariebaileyActually, it is not at all a HIPAA violation to discuss a patient's condition in a semi private room. It is reasonable to expect that the provider's speak quietly and close the curtain. See page 4 FAQs: http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa...identalu&d.pdfGrnTea likes this.
