Do you think I could get kicked out? - page 5
So I went to clinical prep yesterday and my husband accompanied me up to the unit. As I did my prep he sat by me playing on his iPhone. Anyway someone(s) told my instructor that he was there and that... Read More
3Apr 11, '12 by Seas, MSNYou are making excuses. If you go in the meeting with anything you state here, no wonder they will want to get rid of you. Not only because of this very case, but the things you may do in the future with this mindset.
1Apr 11, '12 by dettlei am curious how this will play out!
the bigger picture is- your program director should informthe clinical location of the possible breach. which in turn--- the board of directors and legal department shouldbe notified. there is a possible hippa breach- and they have to inform the appropriate authorities. this could cost the clinicallocation money . i believe the starting amount for any breach is $5,000. now ifthey are fined or not , you have placed your clinical coordinator and collegein a difficult spot. clinical locationstrust them to insure that all rules are followed. i don't think you'll hearquickly it may take a week. but the clinical location now is in a position ofnot being able to trust your current program. this may cost you, you may not bewelcomed back there, which in my current program means - i'm gone. if they can' trust you atclinical site - you can't in the program. (when you're in an unsecure locationwith people walking around you have to be really careful about privacy--it isyour responsibility to maintain patient confidentially at all time. )hardlesson to learn either way. god luck!! i hope it works out for you! i know you have work so hard to get to this point and if you lost your spot you may never see another one-- bad marks could effect you getting in somewhere else if you had to reapply. let us know how it plays out.
0Apr 11, '12 by jennys77Don't worry about all the critiquing going on here and focus on your meeting. When is it? Have you done any remediation with HIPAA review? Have you prepared your case, as in writing down what you will say when you admit fault etc? Good luck!
0Apr 11, '12 by JustBeachyNurseGo in admit what you did without excuse most important offer a remediation plan what to do to make certain it doesn't happen again, apologize, how to help others to not make the sme mistake you did and if they observe something improper how they should handle it (I.e. education)The site won't get fined if they mitigate the situation, prevent future potential breeches. Unfortunately this may include banning you and your school from the clinical site if their legal team are a bit More extreme. A good article to read: http://allnurses.com/general-nursing...on-693686.html
3Apr 11, '12 by hanaseaQuote from w.ross1990I am so sorry. You have all my sympathy.Thank you, you are the only one to not chastise me. I realize I made a mistake. I brought him to the hospital because we have one car and I had to pick him up from work and then go to prep before going home I live almost 20 minutes away from my clinical area and we pass right by it on the way home.
I want to tell you something.
When I was a nursing student, we went clinical site for nursing internship. One of my classmate made a mistake. She put her lunch sandwich in a refrigerator. It looks like pretty normal thing to do, isn’t it? But the problem is the refrigerator was for medicine. Our nursing school kicked out from that hospital for 3 years from this incident. She accepted her grade… (the unit manager gave her zero grade…) she had to take one more additional clinical course (In my school it was 2 more week- each day 8 hour shift) but she survived that mistake and became a nurse.
Of course, It is very different with your situation.
Everybody makes mistake, including me. And other nurses. Making a mistake is fine. But making excuse of the mistake considers very bad.
I know you are trying to explain your situation, want to get sympathy, warm response. I also think you need some sympathy. But your explaining could be misunderstood. Do NOT try to explain thing to them, just said sorry and you will never do it again.
I hope you do not kicked out from your program, and became a nurse someday J
2Apr 11, '12 by GadgetRN71Quote from SeasAgree 100%. They will want to see that the OP can take ownership of her mistakes and learn from them.You are making excuses. If you go in the meeting with anything you state here, no wonder they will want to get rid of you. Not only because of this very case, but the things you may do in the future with this mindset.
3Apr 11, '12 by mangopeachQuote from ColleenRN2BI believe this is common practice for many programs, including mine. First and Second Semester we had to go pick up our patient and do research on their conditions, do the patho, write up drug cards, etc.That was another question I had---just where WAS some kind of instructor for these students? (I use plural b/c OP says another student "turned her in") When I was in school ANYTHING you did in a clinical site was under direct supervision of one of our instructors. No WAY were we allowed to show up and "review" charts on our own!
As long as you were not interacting with the patient, we did not need a CI to be there.
4Apr 11, '12 by OCNRN63, RN ProQuote from woohNo way, don't leave him in the ED waiting room! They might mistake him for a patient. Next thing you know, when you go back to meet up with him, he'll be back in the trauma room getting chest tubes and God knows what else!Oh I totally believe it. My old hospital, the only place they would look at you twice L&D/postpartum. I've been there since I quit working there and been in back hallways, front hallways, nobody looks at you twice.
That said, just because it's something one CAN do, doesn't mean that it's a good idea, and definitely doesn't mean that it's a good idea if you're a guest of the facility being allowed to do your clinicals there.
It really shouldn't have to be said. Don't take your spouse to work with you. Or school. Don't take your kid with you. Don't take your mommy with you. If one of those people MUST go with you, leave them in the lobby. Or the ED waiting room. Or cafeteria.
8Quote from w.ross1990you're kidding, right? especially the part about how you didn't know you did anything wrong?so i went to clinical prep yesterday and my husband accompanied me up to the unit. as i did my prep he sat by me playing on his iphone. anyway someone(s) told my instructor that he was there and that i was supposedly showing him stuff on the chart ( which i was not, i repeat i was not!!!!) i did not know that i was not allowed to have someone with me. so i now have to go in front of the professional conduct board and i am terrified they will kick me out of the program. i have been an ab nursing student and have never done anything unprofessional!! i am freaking out...and crying a lot because i didnt know i was breaking the rules. any advice or anything would help!!
5Quote from mintyfreshness23you're kidding too, right? you have to be!everyone makes mistakes now and then. i am sorry that you have to deal with this kind of stress. just like everyone else said, there is nothing you can do about it now, but to accept and admit your fault and make sure you plead your case that you will not ever do it again.
don't worry, the board will make the right decision, just make sure you get your point across to them. don't beat yourself up for it, and learn from your mistakes. your drive and willingness to become a nurse and to help others in need will not be overlooked. be positive because you can't change the mistake, however, you can definitely learn from it. prayers to you!
9Quote from lindseyrn86i don't think the op is in any danger of beating herself to a pulp. she still doesn't seem to understand the magnitude of her mistake, and for that alone i'd vote she be dismissed from the program were i on the board.don't beat yourself to a pulp. you admit you made a mistake. i am sure you learned from it. sounds like it was innocent that he showed up with you but (as you now know) should have been placed in the lunch room or somewhere where patient info wasn't within view (supposing he was sitting right next to you while doing your prep). as others have said be honest, tell them you have learned from your mistake make sure to have put something together to show this won't happen again. like, how you will make sure for future preps you will either be driven there and left by yourself or just drive yourself. take care!
1Apr 11, '12 by Wild Irish LPNDude....you really messed up. The most important thing is to "own it", tell the board you made a horrible mistake, one that you will learn from and become better because of it....it can be a great experience in a weird way, just humble yourself and take it like a pro and not a kid....I am a nursing student too, I feel for you....thoughts of peace to you.....
0Apr 12, '12 by dettlei am curious how this will play out!
what do you think should happen to you?
whether it was your husband or some other non-clinical staffmember , like a visitor . you allowed an unauthorized person to sit next toyou. this person was with in view of patients records. this show lack ofjudgment and critical thinking skill which are vital to the job you aretraining for. you are dealing with people and there are no room for mistakes. (when you're in an unsecure location with people walking around you have to be really careful about privacy--it is your responsibility to maintain patient confidentially at all time.)
the bigger picture is- your program director should informthe clinical location of the possible breach. which in turn : the board of directors and legal department should benotified. there is a possible hippa breach- and they have to inform the appropriateauthorities and the patient. this could cost the clinical location money. ibelieve the starting amount for any breach is $5,000 plus the patient can sue. plus this patients will tell friends - which by word of mouth will damage the reputation of this location. this is big. nowif they are fined or not , you have placed your clinical coordinator andcollege in a difficult spot. clinicallocations trust these training college to insure that all rules are followed. idon't think you'll hear quickly it may take a week. but the clinical locationnow is in a position of not being able to trust your current program. this maycost you, you may not be welcomed back there .now your college has 2choice - 1- do they have another locationto send you and can & will they trust you unsupervised. 2 if they don't have another location for you - they can either dismissyou, or give you a falling grade for your clinical. if it comes to that have them dismiss you. if you fail your clinical no other program will admit you. if they can'ttrust you at clinical site - you can't in the program. hard lesson to learn either way. with knowing all the problems you justcreated - do you honestly think you should be allow to stay? let us know how it plays out.