Do you think I could get kicked out? - page 4

by w.ross1990

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So I went to clinical prep yesterday and my husband accompanied me up to the unit. As I did my prep he sat by me playing on his iPhone. Anyway someone(s) told my instructor that he was there and that I was supposedly showing him... Read More


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    Quote from w.ross1990
    Our clinical area is at a local hospital on an unrestricted floor that anyone has access to, but I was thinking its hot almost 90 degrees in April and our car has no AC. I realize it was a bad judgement call but it's nOt like I did it intentionally.
    Um, so leave him home instead of in the car....
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    Quote from w.ross1990
    Our clinical area is open to the public it is the area out side of our patients room. Anyone can walk up and somebody and stand over their shoulder without anyones knowledge. It is a local hospital with pods that the rooms are in. Everyone and anyone has access to this area. I wasn't in the nurses station or in the break room. I was in a common area that anyone could walk and see what I was doing. We don't have a choice to work anywhere else. I'm not defending my decision but it's not like I took him somewhere restricted.
    Well, it definately sounds like poor design! My concern would also be that your lack of judgement jepordizes the relationship between hospital and school. My school "got kicked out" of a SNF for 3 years because of a very poor decision made by a nursing student. The thought process was that if the school wasn't teaching students any better common sense than that, they weren't welcome in the facility. We're kind of a rural area, that was a real blow to the program.
    I'm hoping as I go on I'll see the REALLY compelling reason why you had to bring your husband along....
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    Quote from w.ross1990
    Our clinical area is open to the public it is the area out side of our patients room. Anyone can walk up and somebody and stand over their shoulder without anyones knowledge. It is a local hospital with pods that the rooms are in. Everyone and anyone has access to this area. I wasn't in the nurses station or in the break room. I was in a common area that anyone could walk and see what I was doing. We don't have a choice to work anywhere else. I'm not defending my decision but it's not like I took him somewhere restricted.
    I'm not trying to beat up on you here, but this post indicates that you do not understand the concept of public versus private areas in hospitals, and I think it is best that you get this clear before going before your review board.

    Other than the main lobby, waiting room or dining area, there is no such thing as a public area in a clinic or hospital. While there may not be security readily visible or a locked door thru which you must pass, any patient care area is considered private and should be accessed only by those with legitimate business there, such as patients, families, staff, visitors, etc. This includes hallways, stairwells, tunnels, bridges connecting buildings, etc. I am willing to bet that there are signs posted somewhere near the lobby or entrance to that effect. Most healthcare facilities have them, and they instruct visitors to the facility to stop at the desk, wear a name tag or go thru some other procedure to verify that their presence is welcome and appropriate.

    This is not just an issue of confidentiality, although that is a biggie. It is also an issue of basic safety and security. If there should be an emergency requiring a lockdown or evacuation, the hospital staff needs to know who is present. Some units, especially those housing moms and babies, pediatric patients, elderly individuals or those with mental health needs have a special duty to protect their patients' safety and security even moreso than the "typical" hospital patient. This entails limiting access to these areas, and knowing who is present. Some hospitals rely on te "honor" system, expecting that people will not venture where they do not have legitimate business. Others are more stringent and lock doors and check IDs of those who wish to gain entry.

    I dont know the specific unit where you were working, or the size or location of the hospital, all of which might influence the manner in which these expectations are enforced. But I DO know that stating that your husband was present in a "public" area of the facility won't fly as a defense and may cause the board to question your understanding of basic expectations.
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    I hope they don't kick you out of for this. Regardless, learn from this , treat every trip to the hospital as a job interview in the future. I don't like the practice of nursing students coming the night before to 'prep' regardless. in real life you don't get 15 hours of 'prep' time and i think its a stupid practice. (my school never made us do it) Just be humble when you go before the board, admit you made a poor choice and that you have learned from it. I wish you the best.
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    You were/are a STUDENT. That means you are on your best behavior at all times. Please, thank you, yes ma'am, no sir when you are in the building. You are a guest there and lucky to be there at that. The nurse can do the same thing, but it reflects more badly on you. I don't know what possessed you to think that was ok. I didn't make such unprofessional lapses in judgement when I was 15 and worked as a cashier, let alone a nurse. I'm sorry if this is rude, but come on really??????


    PS even if you stay in the program, the school will be lucky to stay in that facility. If I were educational director of the facility, school would be yanked tomorrow am. Would make me wonder what the h**l they teach there or the quality of the students they accept.
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    Just wait for the verdict. If anyone has access to that area, it could be somebody sitting there you don't know.
    The school may ask the hospital if there is a camera in the area where the event happened. Hopefully, that could save you.
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    Quote from evolvingrn
    I hope they don't kick you out of for this. Regardless, learn from this , treat every trip to the hospital as a job interview in the future. I don't like the practice of nursing students coming the night before to 'prep' regardless. in real life you don't get 15 hours of 'prep' time and i think its a stupid practice. (my school never made us do it) Just be humble when you go before the board, admit you made a poor choice and that you have learned from it. I wish you the best.

    That's just it. She HASN'T learned from the mistake. She's making excuses and blaming everything from the weather, to no AC(which is not hospital or school's problem or concern, while pt safety and the school's contract is), to lay out of the hospital, to schools policy. When did she ever take true responsibilty or concern other than for her concern she would be kicked out of school. What about concern for hospital's reputation and the school's facility contract. I haven't seen any remorse except for herself
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    not to chastise you but im in agreement with everyone else, but the sad part is that it makes me question your judgement as a nurse and at this point i would not want you to care for me, my mother or my daughter, it seems ur making excuses a 20 minute drive i drve a hour a day each way for clinical and for class and the one day i brought my daughter too class for a hour i had gotten the pre approval from my instructor because my daughtter was off, unexpectdly due to catholic school and one of there holidays, but as i say i had pre approval, before i did this and i still felt a bit uncomfortable with this, but i managed being a a-b student like yourself, you need to re-evaluate yourself and just admit your wrong doing and tell them that you will never do it again, but im pretty sure your gonna be dismissed because hippa is no joke, sorry about your situation
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    Quote from w.ross1990
    Our clinical area is at a local hospital on an unrestricted floor that anyone has access to, but I was thinking its hot almost 90 degrees in April and our car has no AC. I realize it was a bad judgement call
    My advice would be to be sincere and end it there when you meet with them. If they pursue it further give another version of that theme. Avoid even the appearance of excuse-making.

    but it's nOt like I did it intentionally.
    Don't say that. If you have the right attitude it should be OK. Now you know there are some people with long knives in your clinical group. Something to always be mindful of.
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    This hospital that is open to the public does not have a place for visitors to check in? I'll take the liberty of answering my own question by saying...I don't think there is any healthcare facility that freely allows any person to saunter onto a patient care area without checking ID first. Granted, it's very easy to get past these security checkpoints and you may not be aware of them but what I'm getting at is that...if your husband stated his name and purpose, I don't think he'd get a visitor's pass.


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