Hesi Exit Test - page 21

Hello fellow educators....I am dealing with a dilema which I have no control over as I am a staff member, not administration, but it is just eating away at my concious. My community college uses the... Read More

  1. by   RNDreamer
    We get a number grade and a conversion percentage grade for every HESI we take. (for ex, a 980 and 89%) In the first 3 semesters, the HESI is considered the final exam and is counted towards your class grade. An 800 is recommended, but not necessarily needed to pass the class. (If your class average is high enough not to be affected) If you get below an 800, you take a remedial class the following semester.

    In the last semester, from what I understand, 3 HESIs are taken, and an average of 76.45% for the 3 HESIs must be achieved.




    Quote from lsw1956
    What HESI scores are required for you to complte the program?
  2. by   lsw1956
    That is an attainable goal to acheive. Good luck.
  3. by   mommiof2kids
    the school that I am faculty at uses the HESI as a means to gauge how the students are doing, and a tool to evaluate curriculum. We do not use as a requirement to move on to the next level or to graduate. We do not use it as a grade either. I do know that many schools do use the HESI as a grade or requirement for graduation. I think this is deviating from the purpose of the HESI test. It is a tool to indicate success at passing the NCLEX. It can help students focus on their areas of weakness. However, I think that the main purpose that a program can use the HESI for is to evaluate the effectiveness of the curriculum.
  4. by   veeka25
    I just had my 3rd HESI and I got 870, which was not enough for my school.. Going into the program I signed up for 850, and at the last semester they decided to raise our score to 900!!! Is this legal to do that???? There was about 60 people in our class and maybe less then half passed still on their 3rd try of HESI!!! I never failed a course or droped, straight B student too! Is there anything I can do?? Maybe sue the school because we should of been "grandfathered in" to the program! Any ideas would be great to know! Thank you !
  5. by   mystic33
    Hi
    Hi LPN2RN1972:

    am going to be doing my Exit Hesi in a couple weeks and I would be so gratetful if you could send me some of your research about it. Thanks so much in advance.

    Mystic


    Quote from LPN2RN1972
    Hi I have been where you guys were. I have info and did a ton of research about the Hesi bc of course where I went to school they did not have a review which is why a lot of people don't pass the first time. If anyone wants my info my IM name is the same as my email address and I will gladly send you my info, bc it is GOOD!! A good thing to know is that there are 4 versions of the tests. This is how it works where I went to school. V-1 exit practice hesi. V2 the 1st exit hesi, V-3 the redo, and then V-4 the last one you can take and then have to retake the last 4 wks of school inculding redoing a ton of preceptorship hours. I would be glad to help anyone, just ask!!
  6. by   lsw1956
    Dear VEEKA25, I am not sure if tht is legal or not. I also feel you should be "grandfathered" in since that was the requirement when you enrolled. Maybe you could appeal the 900 HESI to the board of regents, dean,etc. I am not sure who you need to talk too! A score of 900 is hard to obtain. I personally don't agree that a cretain score will help you pass boards. I believe you could pass boards with a 800 but who am I to decide that. Good luck in school!!!
  7. by   new1nursebabyea
    At Drexel U in Philly, the HESI is the be all and end all to nursing. If you do not pass, you do not get your BSN.
  8. by   new1nursebabyea
    This is definitely wrong if they switched standards on your cohort midstream. If this is the case, you need to organize as a group and approach the dean; however, they can change standards for the next cohort of students while your groups is still at the old standard.
  9. by   new1nursebabyea
    The HESI is doable. I went from 79.5/842 to 94/1022 by try #4 and passed NCLEX with 75 q's. It really helped me to organize my study strategy by looking at the trends in my individual HESI results; for example, I started with endocrine, mental health, and leadership then moved to other areas based on weaknesses. I also looked back on former class powerpoints and notes. You will be surprised at how quickly you can go over these materials!

    Everything on the HESI test is in the HESI/NCLEX prep book except for some fundamentals (injection techniques, standard precautions...) However, you get much better questions and user-friendly materials by using Reviews/Rationales, Mosby's, and Saunders. I stopped doing comprehensive tests. I reviewed then would flip flop between sources and do 10-25 questions at a time. When I made a test-taking error, I wrote down what I did wrong.

    I also really studied testing strategy and this helped tremendously because I am not a fabulous multiple test taker: for example, what is an umbrella question, opposites, not second guessing yourself, etc.... This I learned in NCLEX review courses.

    Your best defense is to review and practice q's simultaneously. I find that by just doing q's, you do not get the whole picture of the subject and it becomes an inefficient practice.

    Good luck!!!!!!
  10. by   sese79
    veeka 25 I am the same exact situtation .60 % of my class failed the hesi some including myself would had pass if the recommended score stayed at 850. The reason why they raised the recommended score is because by April 10,2010 the Nclex test is going to be more diffcult than before. However, I feel that my college did not prepare the students to get a score of 900. When I enter the program I was told that I needed a 850 to graduate, I recieved a 881 on the second try. Veeka 25 you might have a case but it depends on specific factors, did you fail and had to return? how many other students that are in the same situtation as yourself? And out of curiousity is your college in nj? please reply back!
  11. by   new1nursebabyea
    If you begin with how to read questions and test taking strategies, I think student outcomes will be greater. That was a big issue of mine. Remediation and content review are much easier.
  12. by   Decemberblues
    <CITE class=smallfont>Originally Posted by LPN2RN1972</CITE>
    Hi I have been where you guys were. I have info and did a ton of research about the Hesi bc of course where I went to school they did not have a review which is why a lot of people don't pass the first time. If anyone wants my info my IM name is the same as my email address and I will gladly send you my info, bc it is GOOD!! A good thing to know is that there are 4 versions of the tests. This is how it works where I went to school. V-1 exit practice hesi. V2 the 1st exit hesi, V-3 the redo, and then V-4 the last one you can take and then have to retake the last 4 wks of school inculding redoing a ton of preceptorship hours. I would be glad to help anyone, just ask!!

    Hi LPN2RN1972:

    I am trying to respond to your posting above re: HESI. I would appreciate the information that helped you in getting through this exam...please let me know how I can get in touch with....I can't seem to send private messages because I haven't posted 15 postings on here but I don't think that should hold me back from being able to communicate or accept your help!. Thank you in advance.
    Last edit by Decemberblues on Feb 21, '10 : Reason: addressed to the wrong person
  13. by   Decemberblues
    I also wanted to add that I am a member of other nursing forums on the web and the concerns with HESI is similar. I can see this becoming disastrous in the future if not already and I think part of the reason that things are more laidback about this entire HESI matter is because the nursing shortage has drastically been reduce from the recession. But if there were shortages and a need for nurses schools would work with students to get through this, especially if they are good students in all other courses and clinical aspects.

    Here's one of my post....
    I agree with all of the posts....The concerns that has been expressed by students at my school is the inconsistence of how the HESI is used. For instance when we started the program HESI was 10% of our final grade (but because many of us didn't do well on it and we don't get a second chance, the percentage was dropped to 5%)...then it was 10% (this percentage was mantained) in the next course offered that is suppose to be on NCLEX, then in the third class of like it became 15% (this percentage was also dropped to 10% to avoid a few fails)...but then when we got to the Med-Surg (the main material covered on NCLEX) the exam became 23-24%, NOT OF OUR FINAL GRADE but of our average exam grade. There was so much wrong with this: A) this was our first med-surg course B) we pretty much had 2 finals in ONE day...our original final for the course and then 30 min-1 hour later the HESI (this was based on a 8-10 week course of Med-Surg)...think of the mindset people were in. I'm not sure how many of your programs prep you for the HESI but at our school they lecture on the material they have selected and at times students are sitting in the HESI thinking I NEVER learned about this...so there's no prep time for the HESI at all. I've heard many students in Advisors offices complaining, but our school, like most of yours, do not care to listen or make it better. It is sad because there have been people who struggled on the HESI but then aced the NCLEX...when i was rotating I had one nurse who graduated from the same program 2 years earlier who said she went to the next state, took her test and had her license tranferred...I think things were a bit more loose back then, because when I look at that state I don't see she could have gotten by without involving her school. I get that the idea behind the test is to improve students passing rate on the NCLEX and of course to increase the passing rate percentage of that school...but I think with most regulations, each school have taken it into their hands to make it what they want it to be. I mean how is it that another nursing school 15 minutes away with the same degree requirements only have their students taking the HESI at the end of their program but from what I heard a lot of their students do well on this and on the NCLEX....you would think it would be accross the board. I have been trying to contact the head person of HESI for a long time but never know where to start, i mean who was the brainiac behind this plan...as nurses we work with our hands and yes brains too...it's not ALL about passing test. some people do extremely well in the clinical setting and mediocre in the exam setting. I know; I'm one of them and I don't think I should have some test telling me that I am not capable of being a nurse because I can't take test. What's frustrating is that I can pass a CPR/ACLS or the written part of this type test...but when it comes to these test I freak and my mind goes blank. I CERTAINLY see this becoming a huge problem in the future but it'll take a collaboration of Nursing Students from all over to make a change!

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