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Managed to buy some Agar today thanks to a new friend telling me about a great health shop in the next province. Now got to have a play around with it as I have some friends coming for a meal in 2 weeks and not sure what to cook them
I've long contemplated becoming vegan, but isn't so much xpensive.
Nope, I found no change to my shopping bill when buying veggie to buying other stuff. Just took my time initially getting used to reading the labels and knowing what I could or couldn't buy
I just wanted to share a really good book that I have been reading and it is some very disturbing information that not only effects meat eaters but not surprisingly vegetarian/vegans as well. The name of the book is Food Inc, by a conglomerate of food experts. In fact, there is a movie out now that condenses the topics dicussed in the book, also called Food Inc by the same people. This book/movie is a must read/see!!! It will drastically change your way of buying food and the sneaky ways of the gov't to become a dictatorship of what we as consumers have the "right" to purchase/eat. If anyone has heard or read about this book, please post with your reactions. Ladies and Gents, this is frightening information and WILL change your way of thinking about the food products you purchase and the hidden labels in foods. Yes, everything from meat down to onion powder. It's getting crazy people!!!!
BTW, I am in no way shape or form trying to promote the book but found it very intriguing and decided to share.
i only got up to page four on here but i just wanted to point out that your definitions are wincorrect. lacto-ovo vegetarians do not eat any type of meat or eggs or milk. ovo-vegetarians drink milk and lacto-vegetarians eat eggs. VEGANS, on the other hand, do not consume any of the aforementioned animal products nor do they consume a whoooole host of other things for example rice crispy treats, jell-o etc. because they contain animal byproducts. in addition, vegans do not wear leather or use animal tested products blah blah blah. it is impossible to be 100% vegan but i know some people who come as close as they can. i myself am what some would refer to as "pescetarian" i only eat seafood. i'm thinking of integrating chicken back into my diet but whenever i get close i 'chicken' out. (excuse the pun :P)
just wanted to set that straight if it wasn't already
You have lacto and ovo backwards. Ovo means egg, so ovo-vegetarians eat eggs but not dairy. Lacto means milk (same root as lactation), so lacto-vegetarians consume dairy. Lacto-ovo vegetarians consume both. Vegans consume no animal products.
"Vegetarian: For the purpose of membership of IVU, vegetarianism includes veganism and is defined as the practice of not eating meat, poultry or fish or their by-products, with or without the use of dairy products or eggs.
Often broken down further into OVO-LACTO, and LACTO. Vegetarians may or may not try and minimize their non food use of animals like vegans. Ovo-Lacto Vegetarian: same as VEGAN (see right), but also eats eggs and milk products. This is the most common form of Vegetarianism in many Western countries. Lacto Vegetarian: Same as VEGAN, but also consumes milk and milk products. Common in India. Vegan: excludes animal flesh (meat, poultry, fish and seafood), animal products (eggs and dairy), and usually excludes honey and the wearing and use of animal products (leather, silk, wool, lanolin, gelatin...).
The major vegan societies all disallow honey, but some "vegans" still use it. Some "vegans" also refuse to eat yeast products. Dietary Vegan: follows a vegan diet, but doesn't necessarily try and exclude non-food uses of animals."
I hate when someone asks me if I eat fish or not. I always tell them that I don't eat anything that takes a poo (replace poo with another word ). Some people don't consider fish meat, so it's just easier to tell them this way.
I've long contemplated becoming vegan, but isn't so much xpensive.
I kept my food budget the same when I went vegan and it hasn't gone up. I do know what you're saying because dairy, and eggs are so massively and cheaply produced convenience and fast food are cheap. Yesterday's blog on vegdaily.com addressed just this issue: http://vegdaily.com/2009/11/vegan-li...ive-solutions/
Originally Posted by mzj0nes
Hello Veggie Friends!!!
I just wanted to share a really good book that I have been reading and it is some very disturbing information that not only effects meat eaters but not surprisingly vegetarian/vegans as well. The name of the book is Food Inc, by a conglomerate of food experts. In fact, there is a movie out now that condenses the topics dicussed in the book, also called Food Inc by the same people. This book/movie is a must read/see!!! It will drastically change your way of buying food and the sneaky ways of the gov't to become a dictatorship of what we as consumers have the "right" to purchase/eat. If anyone has heard or read about this book, please post with your reactions. Ladies and Gents, this is frightening information and WILL change your way of thinking about the food products you purchase and the hidden labels in foods. Yes, everything from meat down to onion powder. It's getting crazy people!!!!
BTW, I am in no way shape or form trying to promote the book but found it very intriguing and decided to share.
Thanks! Part of the purpose of this thread was for use to share this sort of stuff. I've heard about that movie and I really want to see it. Thanks for the review.
Originally Posted by c0ntagion
I hate when someone asks me if I eat fish or not. I always tell them that I don't eat anything that takes a poo (replace poo with another word ). Some people don't consider fish meat, so it's just easier to tell them this way.
I hear you. The two questions I get asked the most "do you eat fish" Me: "um no, fish isn't a plant" and "where do you get your protein??"....ugh.
Originally Posted by Jasmininsf
i only got up to page four on here but i just wanted to point out that your definitions are wincorrect. lacto-ovo vegetarians do not eat any type of meat or eggs or milk.
Thanks for your input, but as was pointed about above, you're wrong. It's o.k. to be wrong because that's how we learn. Ovo-lacto vegetarians eat eggs and dairy, but no animal flesh.
Speaking of books, there's a new book out called "Eating Animals" about the realities of factory farming. It's pretty good, but I can only take it a few pages at a time. I'm already vegan for the animals, but need a little reassurance every now and then. The writer, Jonathan Safran Foer, is getting a lot of good mainstream press and is making the rounds. He's been on Ellen and Martha Stewart. http://www.eatinganimals.com/
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