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Aug 04, 2009 06:11 AM

So what do I need to do to SUCCESSFULLY move to Oahu?


Basically, I went to nursing school so that one day I could move to Hawaii! As far as I'm concerned we could live as homeless people in a state park and forage off the land, but the wife demands a bit more (at least a hut with window airconditioning). I've got one year PCU/medsurg tele experience and she has 5 years cardiac ICU experience. We are hoping to move to Florida (we currently live in Indiana) this year and I want to live on Oahu by the age of 45 (as I only half jokingly say to my wife my goal is to die on the pipeline no later than age 50). So what should I do to make myself maximally employable?


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Old Aug 04, 2009, 01:53 PM

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Good luck, hon. I fear your post may not get you the info you so desperately need. Many folks who are already living in the islands can't find jobs in nursing... things are super duper tight right now. My advice (and I'm on the mainland right now but trying like crazy to get back) is to stack your cash like crazy. SAVE SAVE SAVE. You probably have an awesome standard of living in Indiana (I was born in Cincy) and that will not be possible on Oahu without winning the lotto. Start cutting your lifestyle back to something simpler NOW, so it won't be an unpleasant shock (esp. for your wife) when you do get out here.
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Old Aug 04, 2009, 05:46 PM

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Well I drive a car with 330K miles live in house with no washer and dryer or central heating/Ac and plumbing which will hardly flush with a good rain storm so I wouldn't call our current standard of living exactly excellent. Basically, I love swimming in the open ocean. I also like skin diving and hiking. It is my hope/belief (perhaps mistaken) that I can experience these pleasures to a greater extent on Oahu than Indiana. Plus, I hate the cold (plus my car has no heat/ac which makes it really unenjoyable). Essentially, I want to know what I can do in the next 4 to five years in order to give myself the BEST POSSIBLE prospects of finding a job on Oahu. Which specialties are likely to offer the best prospects? Do I need to leave PCU nursing for ICU or renal nursing? Is peds ICU the way to go?
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Old Aug 04, 2009, 06:55 PM

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^ Wow... sounds like you are living bare bones as it is. My recollection of the midwest was that the standard of living was excellent... especially compared to the pricier states (aka CA, NY, NJ, HI). I wish I could tell you what specialty areas to focus on in order to have a better chance. Heck, I even emailed a nursing program at UHH to ask that very same question: which areas of nursing have the greatest need in HI? They never even responded to my email. SMDH. Sorry to say that I haven't found many folks willing to help a mainlander get out to HI. I wish I could be more helpful. All I can tell you is to get an advanced practice degree and as much experience as you can... and pray a lot. I know I am.
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Old Aug 04, 2009, 11:29 PM

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Well we make decent money now with two nursing incomes. However, the problem is that we both have about 50K in school loan debt which we keep in deferment (basically forever) by taking at least six hours every semester online (with the plan being to die while in school eventually). Also, during the "leaner years" we borrowed, begged and went late on bills just to make ends meet so now we are "paying the piper". I figure that SOME sort of ICU experience will probably help and after that maybe a couple of years of ER might be useful. As for the advanced practice nurses all of the ones that I know (or know of since I know every few personally) make allmost NOTHING more than RN's for the work that they do. Example, a Med/Surg nurse I graduated from school with last year (1 year's experience) works about 60 hours per week and will pull down very close to 100K this year (if not a little more). On the other hand I talked to an ACNP who takes late night calls in our hospital for residents who is only pulling down 70K salary and said that she basically works about 60- 70 hours per week. But maybe it's different in the islands!
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Old Aug 05, 2009, 12:16 AM

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Ceteris:
You're a guy, so I won't try to "sugar coat" this. I'll be direct and straight-forward.

Listen to Big Island Bound. Make a choice. Which is more important?
A. deferring student loans OR
B. moving to Hawai'i ?

Or... you can choose option C.
C. move to Hawai'i, rack up credit cards, then move back to the mainland after 6 months because you can't afford to live here.

It doesn't matter what you do for work. It doesn't matter if you can get a job here. If you are so racked with student loan debt that you can't afford to live here, you're gonna go home.

Make a choice.

Do you ever get patients with major health issues... and they say, "Help me!" The doctor says, "If you want to get rid of your health problem, you need to eat right & exercise!" The patient says, "No, not interested, give me a pill instead!" What category are you and your wife in? Financially, I mean? Will you take the healthy option (pay off debt) or the convenient option (take classes)? Again, your choice.

The #1 thing you can do for yourself, if you want to live long-term in Hawai'i is to... and I know you're not gonna wanna hear this... is to get the monkey off your back. Stop taking 6 credits of college, stop putting time and money into those classes... and START putting more time into work. Work overtime. Pay off the debt!!!

If you and your wife are both working and making good $$, can't you put $10,000 per year into your loans? If you're like most people... you can ... but you won't.

If you don't believe me, go talk to Dave! www.DaveRamsey.com

I say this with compassion... pay off the debt. You'll be happier and your marriage will be stronger.

Lisa ;-)
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Old Aug 05, 2009, 03:57 AM

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Lisa from Maui is giving it to you straight, no chaser, lol! Debt is the monkey on your back... I couldn't figure out why you were living so broke with two nursing incomes... OK, you gotta pay off the debt. Put in the hours and pay it off ASAP... I'd start saving cash, too. Dave Ramsey is definately a good source for financial advice, so is David Bach. I followed his Automatic Millionair Homeowner book and have since gone from being a renter to a homeowner AND a landlord! The thing is, and I say this with aloha, if you are having financial trouble in Indiana, ****, wait till you hit Hawaii. You will financially ruin yourself and end up coming back to the mainland with a broken heart and tail between your legs. Trust me, I know. Good luck, you can do it if you buckle down and work as a team.
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Old Aug 05, 2009, 04:12 AM

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Big Isle Bound: Loved your post!
You wrote, "if you are having financial trouble in Indiana, ****, wait till you hit Hawaii."

I was laughing so hard my abs hurt. (big big smile) Gee, and I thought it was just me.

THANK YOU for the laughter. Yoo be... e komo mai!

Lisa ;-)

P.S. BIB, what island you from?
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Old Aug 06, 2009, 10:23 PM

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Well, I don't disagree with the paying off the debt (in fact I essentially have no debt save for the student loans and a mortgage) BUT I am also working on my BSN! Also, I plan to keep going to school until I have an family practice NP degree or CRNA degree. However, what's wrong with staying in school until I die? It only costs me about $1,500 per year to take enough online classes to keep the loans in deferral essentially forever. We do spend ALOT of money eating out and going to Kings Island, the zoo et al (maybe 2K per month). I have a hard time believing that we couldn't make on Oahu for the $6500.00 per month that we currently earn per month and that's without ever working even an hour of overtime after taxes if we cut way back on the eating out and went down to one vehicle (personally I prefer the bus/biking anyway, but currently we have to commute about 25 miles each way to our jobs way out in the boonies). By the way I wan't kidding
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Old Aug 07, 2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa From Maui View Post
Big Isle Bound: Loved your post!
You wrote, "if you are having financial trouble in Indiana, ****, wait till you hit Hawaii."

I was laughing so hard my abs hurt. (big big smile) Gee, and I thought it was just me.

THANK YOU for the laughter. Yoo be... e komo mai!

Lisa ;-)

P.S. BIB, what island you from?
Glad I could make you chuckle, Lisa. I'm actually from the mainland. I moved out to Oahu in '04 to go to HPU. I came back to the mainland and it was the biggest mistake I ever made in my life. Now I am trying like mad to get back. If I can get into this PA program I'm hoping I'll have a chance to save serious cash and move to the Big Island.
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