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from zombie
Old Sep 11, 2009, 11:09 PM

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as a np in the army you will be doing the same thing you would be doing in the civilian world. primary care stuff for soldiers/families. as you gain rank you will increase in responsibilities which would be pretty much running a clinic. hard to almost impossible to get beyond LTC.

army will send you to FNP and a doctorate as well. don't know if you can get that before hand and go directly to school and then do your time. otherwise you will do a few years and have to apply to the np school... which can be years before you actually go to school. but if you get picked up your job will be only to go to school and get paid to do it.
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No. 11
Old Sep 12, 2009, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jerrylundergard View Post
Sorry no answers for you but I have a question. LULZ

Are you going to be practicing in the Nurse Practitioner role in the Army? Im curious what they would have you do? Im now just waiting for the last bit of paperwork before I can join the Reserves. I wanted AD but the hospital im at made me sign a form saying i have to pay them back all moneys I earn during training if I leave before the 2 year contract. So ill do reserves now and AD possibly in 2 years. Im kinda fixin on going to FNP school here but not sure what the possibilitys are for a NP in the army. Thanks
I am actually going in as a 66H med surg nurse. The MOS for FNP is 66P, they Army does not have a MOS for Adult NP therefore I will be a 66H. Now with that said if the hospital/clinc I am assigned can use me as an adult NP thane I can function in that role when needed but I will still be 66H. I can treat ages 13 and up(as an adult NP) so technically there are lots of places they Army could use me instead of an FNP but then I would take the 66P slot and the command where I am going may not want to do that.

With that said, there are options of an ANP getting there FNP I believe in 4-6months but then I would need to sit for board certification again. I will do this if that's what the army wants. Otherwise my hopes/plans are to pursue a PhD in which there are many online programs I am looking into now.

I am hopefull that since I am coming in as CPT, 66H, I will have the opportunity to rank up well in my 20 year career, but I am so new to anything military so I have much to learn!
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Old Sep 12, 2009, 07:08 AM

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Also the bonus and student loan payment I selected was based on me being a 66H. They did not have the same incentive programs for NPs I guess because the need isn's as big. The Army, from what I can tell, uses PAs much more?
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No. 13
Old Sep 12, 2009, 07:46 AM

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It will be interesting to see how the Army responds in a few years when NP will be a doctorate level entry...I am sure that will decrease the supply of NPs.
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No. 14
Old Sep 12, 2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hopeful_army_NP View Post
Otherwise my hopes/plans are to pursue a PhD in which there are many online programs I am looking into now.

I am hopefull that since I am coming in as CPT, 66H, I will have the opportunity to rank up well in my 20 year career, but I am so new to anything military so I have much to learn!
Not sure the Army will pay for an "online degree" and personally.....an "Online Phd" program is *******' inferior. If you are going to put the time into a real doctorate......go for the real thing.....brick and mortar. (coming from personal experience here)

good luck,
c.
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Old Sep 12, 2009, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by olderthandirt2 View Post
Not sure the Army will pay for an "online degree" and personally.....an "Online Phd" program is *******' inferior. If you are going to put the time into a real doctorate......go for the real thing.....brick and mortar. (coming from personal experience here)

good luck,
c.
I'm surprised to hear that, there are many accredited universities with online programs for the real life adult learner, I have only really looked into Rush University and Capella(which is recognized by the military). I am here to learn though. I will be sure to post the outcomes when I get to that point in the future.
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No. 16
from DMURSE1
Old Sep 13, 2009, 12:45 AM

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I went to an AA nursing program. immediately after graduating enrolled I in Drexel online. I graduated while gaining quality experience in critical care. The program was challenging probably more so than so called "brick and morter" schools. It required a tremendous amount of self motivation without the need to fight for a parking spot. From my experience online was the way to go. Instead of sitting in a classroom I worked in the hospital and made money while learning what nursing was truely all about. It offered me the opportunity to work full time with minimal lecture requirements. I would do it again for the MSN if my concentration allowed. I do agree that if I was going to get a PHD that it would at least be from a reputable school.
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Old Sep 13, 2009, 08:21 AM

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I wanted to respond to HopefulArmyNP..I am in school currently for WHNP and also thought I would be going in as a 66H as there is no "WHNP" in the army. My recruiter just had me sign papers the other day and he is putting me in as the "FNP" title instead. I still got to request loan repayment ect. I was extremely confused because I didn't expect it and to be honest, I'm not sure how its going to work. Seeing that you're an ANP, now I'm even more nervous as to why they did this for me and not you. He was saying that I will still work as a nurse, but that I can keep up my hours to maintain my WHNP license as well. Any ideas or input??
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No. 18
Old Sep 13, 2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BostonGal24 View Post
I wanted to respond to HopefulArmyNP..I am in school currently for WHNP and also thought I would be going in as a 66H as there is no "WHNP" in the army. My recruiter just had me sign papers the other day and he is putting me in as the "FNP" title instead. I still got to request loan repayment ect. I was extremely confused because I didn't expect it and to be honest, I'm not sure how its going to work. Seeing that you're an ANP, now I'm even more nervous as to why they did this for me and not you. He was saying that I will still work as a nurse, but that I can keep up my hours to maintain my WHNP license as well. Any ideas or input??
I'm not sure you recruiter has that right. In order for you to be 66P on your assignment, you would need to take the slot of a 66P, that means the command where you are going would be willing to give up a slot for a FNP and take a WHNP which is a very specific scope of practice. With that said, if they have a need- such as in a OBGYN clinic then possibly they would be willing to do that. But when you put down your 3 choices, and the Officer that will call you to offer your 1st location, they will assume you are a FNP. You in return will need to explain the situation.

My 5 year cert period will be renewed for 2010-2015, during that time I will need to work some hours as an ANP to cert for 2015-2020. I have heard of other NPs doing that by working in a clininc at there hospital when needed- but enough to get the hours over the 5 year cert period. That may be more difficult for you since your scope of practice is so specific. Since your still in your program have you thought of changing to FNP?

Yes the NP did have student loan repayment, but the amounts of the bonus+student loans was higher for 66H, unless things have changed since the time I started getting my packet together.

Good luck with everything.
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Old Sep 13, 2009, 10:14 AM

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Thanks for responding! I feel like i'm in a weird situation. I totally undertsand what you're saying, as that was what I thought anyways. I was surprised when he just told me this (as he told me before I would be a 66H). I feel like somehow this is going to get everything all messed up. I'm not sure what to do since I really do want the RN experience anyways. I would like to keep my WHNP certification, but I'm not sure how that will work either. I am still in school, but graduating in May and I do really like the WHNP specialty area. I kind of figured that I would figure it out in the future, concentrating more on the RN piece over the next few years. Not sure if I should contact him about this, he was reassuring me that I would be fine!
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