My OBLC experiences - page 8

I am currently at OBLC (Officer Basic Leader Course) in Ft. Sam Houston. I will try to give a brief overview so future students can have an idea and hopefully be prepared. I am not in the ANC (Army... Read More

  1. by   olderthandirt2
    Quote from thegrinch1976
    Yes I did. I was the instructor that had to field the "paranoia question" during the Middle Eastern Culture Class given to the RC's...

    OH my goodness!
    I was on the front row, very close to the "Paranoia Source!"....... you answered that soldier very well and patiently

    thank you again for your expertise and patience (forbearance under provocation)

    1Lt. Benton
  2. by   66HotelMikeFive
    Quote from thegrinch1976
    Just a couple of things about OBLC:

    1. right now, if you are required to stay on post, you WILL have a room mate in the billets. THis has been a challenge for most (lots of different personalities, and they don't always mesh well.) I've had students in the past almost get into bare knuckle, drag out, fist fights because they didn't get along. Since it is our goal to teach leadership here at OBLC, it is important that you learn to tolerate each other the best you can.

    2. the APFT is important, and you must pass. But the Cadre (instructors) will work with you as much as possible. But the other thing to realize is, we simply do not do enough PT during the 1 hour session in the morning. My recommendation for everyone is to do some PT, or weight training on your own. During your lunch hour, or after work. Fort Sam has a decent Gym, and there are two main running tracks on Fort Sam. You'll just have to find some self motivation to get there...

    3. In regards to recyling/failing. This does happen on rare occassions, based on many different circumstances. Mostly involving some type of medical issues. As long as you pass the APFT, the MIDTERM, and FINAL. And have "perfect" attendance during the course you should be fine. YOu cannot miss more than 24 combined hours of training during the course. I would suggest everyone comes with a positive attitude, too. You may not enjoy every aspect of the course, but try to give your best effort day in and day out. THere have been cases where students were deemed unfit based on other than physical health reasons. For some this may be the toughest training you have ever experienced.

    4. We are no longer authorized to train over weekends (unless you are in the Reserve Course which last 28 days) so you will have a break between each FTX. We observe All federal holidays, but unless the schedule permits, we may have to train on Training Holidays from time to time. I believe this is the case for the upcoming January 2009 course.

    5. I would recommend to everyone to purchase a set of Combat Boots before you get to OBLC. It takes some time for them to "break in." THe first day of your first FTX is Dismounted Land Navigation, and this usually takes a lot of students out, and most end up on 'soft' shoe profiles. Don't purchase the Mattahorn or Jump Boot Variety. Corcoran, Oakley, Altama all make a very comfortable "Sneaker Style" boot, that are authorized for wear. I prefer Oakley boots. You can get them cheaper at USSTANDARDISSUE.COM. The Oakleys (as well as the other Sneaker style) are much lighter and have a shorter break in period than the issued combat boot. You can buy all military SPEC Oakley Glasses there as well. As long as your boots are 8 inches high and don't have any zippers or tabs on them, you are fine.

    6. If you are prior service, and actually went through a Rapid Fielding Initiative (RFI) during your prior service time, CIF here will not issue you Ballistic Eye wear. If you have a set, I would suggest you bring them. You'll need them during the FTX's, especially during the M16 and M9 range.

    7. At some point while you are here you will have to conduct an uniform inspection in your dress uniform. the requirement for active duty is Dress Blues, and Reserve/NG soldiers will wear the Class A Uniform. If you are purchasing your Dress Blues, I would suggest everyone purchase the Low waisted/straight waisted pants with belt loops as opposed to the high-waisted suspender pants. We will be transitioning to the new Army Service Uniform in the near future. It'll save you some money when the transition takes place. A few students have attempted to purchase these uniforms at local ALteration shops around fort sam, I would recommend you do not utilize this route. It may be cheaper, but some students have ended up with uniforms in the wrong color. If the CLothing and Sales On post does not have the uniform you can try the AAFES.COM website or even the MARLOWWHITE.COM website.

    8. Clothing & Sales here is "extremely limited" when it comes to uniform stockage. They have plenty of ACU's, but are always short on the dress and PT uniforms. For the JAN 09 class you will need the full Winter PT uniform with long sleeve shirt. Also, try to purchase the Unversal green cold weather cap as opposed to the black cold weather cap. The green one will be the only authorized cap in the future. It'll save you some money now. And don't forget a set of black gloves. The AAFES.COM site will have all your military uniforms, if you wish to purchase them prior to arrival (might be a good idea, if you can afford it right now.) But it may take up to two weeks to receive the items.

    9. Here are a few places you can purchase military spec uniform items. I am NOT affiliated with any of these sites, nor will I get a kick back if you go there. As an instructor I feel it is important for everyone to be successful from the start.

    For uniforms:
    www.Rangerjoes.com - they sell everything you can imagine, and they ship a lot faster than AAFES does
    www.marlowwhite.com - for your dress uniforms if the Clothing&Sales is all dried up.
    www.AAFES.com - has everything the other two sites have, but you will need a Military ID card for access
    www.ALTAMA.com - spec issue, sneaker style boots
    www.USSTANDARDISSUE.com - everything Oakley for the military. Much cheaper than going to any other store. You will need an ID card as well
    www.USCAV.com - just like Ranger Joes.

    Any other questions, feel free to ask.
    Thank you sir, for the very informative post.

    I need to get some final clarification. I have read several places, including an official release from AMMED that stated we (RC) do not need the Dress Blues ("Army Service Uniform"). Reading your post you are stating that we DO need to have them for OBLC?

    Thank you,

    66HM5
  3. by   olderthandirt2
    Hi M5!

    RC---We graduated in our ACU's in Nov.2008.
    We did not need OR were required to have our dress blues (or greens).

    When are you going to OBLC? You will have a great time....
    I am currently trying to get an additional skill identifier---M5, because (I hope) it will make me more apt to get an oconus deployment.
    Currently, all the 2009 slots are filled for 8A.
    Not sure HRC will go for my M5, but I will try!

    c.
  4. by   66HotelMikeFive
    Quote from olderthandirt2
    Hi M5!

    RC---We graduated in our ACU's in Nov.2008.
    We did not need OR were required to have our dress blues (or greens).

    When are you going to OBLC? You will have a great time....
    I am currently trying to get an additional skill identifier---M5, because (I hope) it will make me more apt to get an oconus deployment.
    Currently, all the 2009 slots are filled for 8A.
    Not sure HRC will go for my M5, but I will try!

    c.
    OTD,

    Thanks for the response. I wonder if the uniform requirement applies only to AC?

    I was supposed to go in January. But... the Army has seen fit for whatever reason to drag their feet in issuing my orders. I was commissioned on July 1st. I am still awaiting orders. I was told (though not in writing) that I would have my orders by now and would be able to attend OBLC in January. I most likely wont be making it until April.

    I commissioned with the M5 identifier due to my experience. I have been ER since day one as an RN (a little over 3 years now...boy did that fly by). My recruiter put it in my contract. Prior to nursing I was a paramedic so the ER has been a natural fit for me.

    Good luck in obtaining the identifier. I will be going after the Critical Care identifier. Hopefully I can get a slot in the class.... If I ever get to OBLC that is.


    66HM5
  5. by   rowan_dreams
    This was a great read. Thank you so much for sharing.
  6. by   armybound1
    What does RC and AC mean?? or is it just just active, reserve component?
  7. by   66HotelMikeFive
    You got it. Active Component / AC, or to be more correct, Active Duty / AD. Reserve Component / RC.
  8. by   GetnPhD
    I have not had any success in the rooms so I am using a USB wireless card, but do not use one unless I need to view/access emails.
  9. by   GetnPhD
    Hi Army,
    AD is Active Duty, whereas RC is the Reserve Component.
  10. by   GetnPhD
    Hi 66H,
    I commissioned in January and am still trying to get orders. In fact, I leave here in 10 days and my unit still does not know that I am coming.

    Good luck! You will enjoy OBLC when you finally get here.
  11. by   66HotelMikeFive
    Quote from GetnPhD
    Hi 66H,
    I commissioned in January and am still trying to get orders. In fact, I leave here in 10 days and my unit still does not know that I am coming.

    Good luck! You will enjoy OBLC when you finally get here.

    Thank you GetnPhD,

    Refresh my memory. You are in RC?.... Im a little confused...You just completed OBL C right? and you dont have orders?.....fill me in... please.
  12. by   olderthandirt2
    Quote from 66HotelMikeFive
    OTD,

    Thanks for the response. I wonder if the uniform requirement applies only to AC?

    I was supposed to go in January. But... the Army has seen fit for whatever reason to drag their feet in issuing my orders. I was commissioned on July 1st. I am still awaiting orders. I was told (though not in writing) that I would have my orders by now and would be able to attend OBLC in January. I most likely wont be making it until April.

    I commissioned with the M5 identifier due to my experience. I have been ER since day one as an RN (a little over 3 years now...boy did that fly by). My recruiter put it in my contract. Prior to nursing I was a paramedic so the ER has been a natural fit for me.

    Good luck in obtaining the identifier. I will be going after the Critical Care identifier. Hopefully I can get a slot in the class.... If I ever get to OBLC that is.


    66HM5
    Thanks for the response.....
    I am sorry to hear of your extended wait.....it does seem like you are doing more than your fair share of waiting......

    Have you started your AC paperwork yet? Maybe it is good you are holding off going to OBLC, especially if you can get the benefit of going for 8-9 weeks as AC rather than the 3-4 weeks RC is allowed.....?

    I sure would have like a few more weeks and the special tracks.........

    good luck with your papers,
    c.
  13. by   ashley.m.keiser
    Is there alot of things to print that one would need to bring a printer or is there a place on base that is open to print items for class?

    thanks for any help

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