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Sep 03, 2004 09:37 PM

Military/VA RN's - Please post experiences for Students

by RNPATL

I would like to help our student nurses recognize the value of entering into military service or working for the VA system. To do this, I would ask all of our members that are military or VA employed to lend your experience here. Please take a moment to post information for our students that you might think is helpful for them.

Would love to see information about dealing with recruiters (military ... that is) and how to effectively negotiate with them. Would like to see information posted about experiences that you have and any recommendations you have about entering military nursing or the VA system. THe VA can be a difficult place to navigate and any information on how to get into the VA would be helpful also.

We have many students that monitor this thread and I think this information would be very helpful to them.

Also, for the students reading this thread, please feel free to add your questions. We have many experienced military and VA nurses that view this thread and I am sure they are willing to help answer your questions.

I will make the thread a sticky in the hopes that it does become popular. Thanks for your help.


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Old Sep 14, 2004, 01:35 AM

I am due to graduate from my LVN program in 2 weeks and REALLY want to work at the VA. One of our clinical rotations was at the VA here in San Diego, but unfortunatley not all the students in the class were able to go there, so I was not able to visit that site. My husband is active duty and I would enjoy and value working with the Veterans. If anyone could give me advice on how to go about applying and also if there are any posotions that are available in the time that I graduate school, until I pass boards and get my license (volunteering, nurses aid etc.)... it would be gratly appreciated. TIA.
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from lmolvr
Old Sep 14, 2004, 08:43 AM

Default Am I too old?
When I was 21, I tried to join the Air Force, but was turned down, due to a genetic disorder I had. The disorder (Neurofibromatosis) doesn't cause any problems for me, but they still said no.

I still would like to be in the Air Force, but I am now 30. Am I past my prime?

It seems that the Air Force Nurses are BSN holders. Would I need to get my BSN before going to the Air Force?

Lmo
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No. 3
from KPCurley
Old Oct 13, 2004, 03:53 PM

Im Looking into the United States Navy Nurse Canidate Program, any one have an any experience with this program.
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Old Oct 13, 2004, 06:41 PM
Updated Oct 13, 2004 at 06:44 PM by Jo Anne

I am not a student, but I did have a clinical rotation on a spinal cord injury floor at our VA hospital. I enjoyed it very much. It is such a patriotic place.
I would of accepted a position but I had a schedule conflict. I still get sad about that.
Hopefully, in the near future, I will have the privilege of working with our Vets.

I especially enjoyed meeting the WWII Vets and listening to their stories.




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No. 5
from RNPATL
Old Oct 13, 2004, 07:18 PM

Default Military Requires a BSN
Originally Posted by lmolvr
When I was 21, I tried to join the Air Force, but was turned down, due to a genetic disorder I had. The disorder (Neurofibromatosis) doesn't cause any problems for me, but they still said no.

I still would like to be in the Air Force, but I am now 30. Am I past my prime?

It seems that the Air Force Nurses are BSN holders. Would I need to get my BSN before going to the Air Force?

Lmo
All branches of the military require a BSN (I believe - Military people help me out please). I am not sure what the age cut off is, but perhaps others reading tyhe thread can answer.
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No. 6
from caffeinism
Old Nov 24, 2004, 07:51 PM
Updated Nov 25, 2004 at 06:50 PM by caffeinism

Default Would love some insight
Maybe the title of this thread should be something like...."Military RNs, please post experiences here for student."

If anybody here is like me and looking for info, please put down what you have found out....you know like, "so and so said". It would be appreciated and I will try and return the favor. Maybe we can consolidate or concerns and questions.




Some of the prospects and questions that I have/believe about military nursing are:
1-The pride of putting on the uniform..both scrubs and military.
2-Working with and for our service members.
3-Deployment nursing...like battlefield hospitals or with marine corps units sounds interesting.
4-Some of the administration I have seen in the civilian world can be pretty cutthroat, is it the same in the military?
5-I have thought about the VA as an alternative to the service.
6-What about this civilian nurse working for the military stuff I hear?
7-Can one still have a pretty solid personal life as a nurse in the military.
8-How safe is nursing in the service insofar as patient-nurse ratios, hours worked in one day, litigation?
9-Do you feel like your education, career, and life is on hold because you are in the service?
10-If I am just looking for a medical/surgical floor position, is that pretty easy to get.
11-What is the culture like at work (work environment).

Thanks a ton.
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No. 7
from caffeinism
Old Nov 26, 2004, 10:57 AM

Relax and don’t worry about a specialty. The military simply needs warm bodies. From what I’ve seen, the Air Force takes nurses with a pulse as their primary specialty. I worked in the civ world and work in mil world. One relates 0.00% to the other.

Clinical mil nurses log 10 or 20 hours a week (holidays/weekends/sunny days/etc are all holidays)…and all of that is on a phone telling pt’s they can’t get an appointment. You’ll get a couple of hours for lunch and might actually touch a patient (as long as he needs nothing more than Tylenol) once or twice a day for a handshake.

If you really want to get a grasp on tough to acquire specialties….you need to stay a civilian and see really acute patients. Mil patients abuse the free healthcare and present with slacker syndrome most of the time. If you can get a certification in giving article 15’s to dirtbag slackers looking for profiles and quarters….…you’d be guaranteed a slot as an Air Force RN. If you want to see really sick acute care folks….you are barking up the wrong tree. Our ER waiting room fills with dirtbags 100:1 over folks that really need help






I am considering joining the military after nursing school, and this is something I am concerned about. That is, stagnating professional development and absence of any continuation of my skill as a nurse. If I join and decide to get out, will I be way behind civilian nurses in skill and ability? I realize there are some great prospects in the civilian world, but I would love to be a nurse and serve as an officer in the military. Could you or anyone expand on the differences in the services and also compared to civilian nursing. I have access to the information about how much they will pay for schooling and how much vacation time you get...., BUT what would be great to hear, is how you feel about the job. Please check out the questions in the posting just above this one. Please check it out and add some info.

Thanks!, and thank you for your service to our country and its service members.
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No. 8
from mwbeah
Old Nov 28, 2004, 02:04 PM
Updated Nov 28, 2004 at 02:22 PM by mwbeah

Default Link for Army Nursing
Here is some information you may want if you are interested.

http://www.goarmy.com/amedd/nurse/co...ies_requir.jsp

It list the requirements and age.

If anyone has any questions, I was active duty enlisted and am currently am and active duty CRNA.


As far as the question about experience, you will have more than you will ever know. You will be far ahead of your peers (no matter if you go Army, Navy, Air Force)... I speak from experience. In order to advance, you will be required to continually improve your clinical and academic standing through the various programs offered through the armed forces for nurses (ER course, ICU course, OB course, etc -- paid master's and advanced practice programs, etc). I have to disagree with the poster concerning lack of patient acuity in the armed forces, I believe that person is misinformed (and quite possibly mentally ill since he or she has no idea of what they speak----referring to the posted quote referenced by caffeinism in the above post. Sorry you read that horrible post caffeine). Our medical centers and information on them can be found on the web. You will work 40 (on a good week) up to 80 hours a week in some cases. We take care of soldiers, dependents, retirees, and reserve troops daily, the "slacker" comment was very unprofessional and misinformed.


Brooke Army Medical Center
Walter Reed Medical Center
Tripler
Eisenhower
William Beaumont (to name a few)

On the same token, excellent training and experience comes with the strong possibility that you will deploy in support of the Global War on Terror (with that there is no better experience IN THE WORLD). I truly love the Army, my pay for my specialty is lower than my civilian counterparts, but my practice is more autonomous.

Good Luck,
Mike

Additionally, the army paid for all my education.
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No. 9
from bluesky
Old Nov 28, 2004, 02:34 PM

I am very happy with my full time SICU position at WHC but I have always wanted to volunteer a shift a week or so at the VA because my father was a Vietnam vet. I think I tried calling just last Friday here in D.C. and the guy told me that they were overwhelmed with volunteers and that they didn't use nurses as volunteers. Do you know if there's any way around that? I don't think they'd hire me for just a shift a week or less, would they?
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