Nurses Helping Nurses
allnurses Network: Central | Jobs | Books | Newsletter
allnurses: A Nursing Community for Nurses
Home General News Blogs Articles Students Region Specialty Degrees F.A.Q.
Government and Military Nursing /

Does COT time help with O-1E status in Air Force?



Did You Know?
allnurses is the largest community for nurses on the web. We now have over 385,944 members! Join today to network with other nurses, laugh, share, and much more.

Jul 02, 2009 09:39 PM

Does COT time help with O-1E status in Air Force?


I have 1456 points (just 3 days LESS than 4 years) which puts me just 4 days short of the requirement of "4 years and 1 day" to gain the 'E' on the O-1 status.
I have heard that COT counts as "enlisted time" and that those days can go towards my points which would put me over the 1460 requirement. Does anyone know if this is true?
Thanks.


Share: Submit Thread to Facebook Submit Thread to Twitter Submit Thread to Technorati Submit Thread to Google Submit Thread to Reddit

Search Tags
cot, o-1, o-1e, requirements
Top

 
Advertisement
Sponsored Links
 
Reply
6 Comments
No. 1
from wtbcrna
Old Jul 02, 2009, 10:13 PM

Default Re: Does COT time help with O-1E status in Air Force?
Originally Posted by missmiss View Post
I have 1456 points (just 3 days LESS than 4 years) which puts me just 4 days short of the requirement of "4 years and 1 day" to gain the 'E' on the O-1 status.
I have heard that COT counts as "enlisted time" and that those days can go towards my points which would put me over the 1460 requirement. Does anyone know if this is true?
Thanks.
When you go to COT you are already a commissioned officer. COT is unlike OTS where you are not commissioned officer until you finish.
Top
 
No. 2
from jeckrn
Old Jul 03, 2009, 10:53 AM

Default Re: Does COT time help with O-1E status in Air Force?
Review your DD214 and see what it says you could end up having more then that due to termanial leave. If you can not come up with the 4 points I think you will not get the "E".
Top
 
No. 3
Old Jul 04, 2009, 02:38 AM

Default Re: Does COT time help with O-1E status in Air Force?
No, it doesn't.

Terminal leave is not added onto your initial commitment, it's time you already owe the military. All the "terminal" denotes is you're not earning leave while you're on that leave.

When I separated in 2000, I had 31 days of leave on the books. I started terminal leave on 1 April 2000. For that time period, I was still considered to be on active duty. As of 1 May 00 at 0001 hours, I was officially in inactive status and had completed my four year commitment. This is how it works across the DoD.

Terminal leave is not added on - it's how you burn off leave you have without losing money in taxes by having it cashed out.

When you get to COT (and I'm headed there in October), you have started a new term of service and you are already commissioned when you get there. It can't help you with gaining that E. There's no big pay difference anyway.
Top
 
No. 4
Old Jul 04, 2009, 02:56 AM

Exclamation Re: Does COT time help with O-1E status in Air Force?
Originally Posted by carolinapooh View Post
When you get to COT (and I'm headed there in October), you have started a new term of service and you are already commissioned when you get there. It can't help you with gaining that E. There's no big pay difference anyway.
$358.80/month difference from O-1 to O-1E pay rate if given credit for 8 years TIS (factoring in a completed initial military obligation of 8 years).

http://www.dfas.mil/militarypay/militarypaytables.html
Top
 
No. 5
from jeckrn
Old Jul 04, 2009, 08:56 AM

Default Re: Does COT time help with O-1E status in Air Force?
Originally Posted by carolinapooh View Post
No, it doesn't.

Terminal leave is not added onto your initial commitment, it's time you already owe the military. All the "terminal" denotes is you're not earning leave while you're on that leave.

When you are on terminal leave you are still on active duty recieving active duty pay & earing leave.

When I separated in 2000, I had 31 days of leave on the books. I started terminal leave on 1 April 2000. For that time period, I was still considered to be on active duty. (which means you are active and recieve active pay & benefits) As of 1 May 00 at 0001 hours, I was officially in inactive status and had completed my four year commitment. This is how it works across the DoD.

What date is on your DD214 is it April 1 or May 1? You are correct in that you are in reserve status once your terminal leave ends and it is past the date on your DD214. You are correct in that it works the same way across the DOD.

Terminal leave is not added on - it's how you burn off leave you have without losing money in taxes by having it cashed out.

You still pay taxes on terminal leave but not at a lump sum rate. Also you countinue to get your BAH & BAS while on terminal leave where if you cashed out you only recieve your base pay.

When you get to COT (and I'm headed there in October), you have started a new term of service and you are already commissioned when you get there. It can't help you with gaining that E. There's no big pay difference anyway.
Your time in service does not change, TIS includes active & inactive time along with enlisted & commissioned time. No there is not a hugh difference between an O1 & O1E but every dollar helps.

O1 E with 6 years TIS = 3589.30/month
O1 with 6 years TIS = $3340.50/month

O3E with 14 years TIS= 5844.90/month
O3 with 14 years TIS = 5799.70/month

O3E tops out at 6146.70/month
O3 tops out at 5799.70/month

you also have to consider appox 100-150 a month for for housing depending on location.

Looks like a nice difference once you make Captian and have some TIS.
I am speaking as a former enlisted sailor reserve & active and commissioned officer in the Army active & reserves.


Sounds like you did no not have 1460 points, if you do your personal office or DFAS should catch the problem but if they do not and you want the extra money later it can be hard to get changed.
Top
 
No. 6
from in2bate71
Old Jul 04, 2009, 06:13 PM

Default Re: Does COT time help with O-1E status in Air Force?
Same thing happened to me. While it would be nice to have the "E" pay right now....I just chalked it up as a lesson learned.
Top
 
Reply




Thread Tools


Who's Online
100 members
1,502 guests
1,602

4

Nurse Practitioner listed with the fallen at Fort Hood

10

Hospital bill stuns slain student’s parents: $ 30,000 for 5...

27

Doctors-in-short-supply-responsibilities-for-nurses-may-expa...

13

Less regular sleep for ICU nurses may lead to errors

19

Nurse sends unused medical supplies to needy nations

24

Premature Births Are Fueling Higher Rates of Infant...

7

MRSA Strain Linked to High Death Rates

32

RI hospital fined $150,000 in 5th wrong-site surgery since...

67

Nursing: One of the 6 Thriving Jobs that are Here to Stay???

90

Dad Fights Hospital to Keep Baby on Life Support



7

Why am I doing this, anyway?

0

Nurse Heal Thyself

7

My Papa, why I am the nurse I am today.

15

I made it through

11

An angel's gaze

13

A Sister Never Forgets

16

Ruby's Marbles

29

What Do Operating Room Nurses Do?

14

My Little Old Jedi

17

I love this job......

23

"I hear voices"

17

Preventing FRUTI (Foley Related Urinary Tract Infection) in...

23

Error and Attitude

10

It's Just a Shower

6

Searching for the Purpose





Currently Reading This Page: 1 (0 members & 1 guests)

Interested in the hottest topics of the week? Subscribe to the Nurse-zine Newsletter.
Enter email address: