Army Nurse Thinking going To Air Force - page 2

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Itís plain & simple, my 4yr commitment is about to be up & well Iíll be honest Iím thinking about leaving the Army Nurse Corps to join the Air Force Nurse Corps. Iím a direct commission Critical Care Nurse whoís not too crazy... Read More


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    Quote from sdrn04
    Hi, I have been in a GS nursing position for a about 6 months now but would love to be a part of the uniformed service. I'm really interested in the USPHS because I have small children and am not interested in long deployments. I was just wondering how much better the pay and benefits are compared to GS. I've looked at the pay scale table, but how do they compare considering the benefits? Thanks for any help!

    Stephanie
    I am days away from converting from GS (well, actually GL) to Public Health Service. Uniformed services retirement is noncontributory, which means you don't pay into it, and you get 2.5% per year of service with a 20 year minimum committment. That's extra money in your pocket. Medical insurance premiums are very small compared to GS benefits, so more money. Base pay you can find on the pay table and is taxable. You also get a subsistence allowance of $192/month non-taxed as well as a housing allowance based on location, rank, and dependent status. Do a web search for BAH calculator and you'll be able to find out what it would be for you. BAH is not taxed either. So, overall you will almost certainly come out ahead as a uniformed PHS officer than GS.

    Add to that GI Bill benefits, VA home loan, etc., etc., etc., and Public Health Service looks pretty good. The down side is that if you don't do 20 years, you get no retirement. No vesting, no carry away some portion of it, nothing. So, if you plan to go PHS, you do it one of two ways: short term to qualify for GI Bill or get student loans paid off OR for the long haul.
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    Quote from BSNinTX
    I am days away from converting from GS (well, actually GL) to Public Health Service. Uniformed services retirement is noncontributory, which means you don't pay into it, and you get 2.5% per year of service with a 20 year minimum committment. That's extra money in your pocket. Medical insurance premiums are very small compared to GS benefits, so more money. Base pay you can find on the pay table and is taxable. You also get a subsistence allowance of $192/month non-taxed as well as a housing allowance based on location, rank, and dependent status. Do a web search for BAH calculator and you'll be able to find out what it would be for you. BAH is not taxed either. So, overall you will almost certainly come out ahead as a uniformed PHS officer than GS.

    Add to that GI Bill benefits, VA home loan, etc., etc., etc., and Public Health Service looks pretty good. The down side is that if you don't do 20 years, you get no retirement. No vesting, no carry away some portion of it, nothing. So, if you plan to go PHS, you do it one of two ways: short term to qualify for GI Bill or get student loans paid off OR for the long haul.
    Thanks so much! You provided the answers I was looking for. I just want to make the most informed decision so that I don't have any regrets in the future. By the way, which agency are you going to be employed with? It seems to be a great opportunity with all of the different nursing paths they offer. Thanks again and keep us posted on how everything goes.

    Best of luck,
    Stephanie
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    Quote from sdrn04
    Thanks so much! You provided the answers I was looking for. I just want to make the most informed decision so that I don't have any regrets in the future. By the way, which agency are you going to be employed with? It seems to be a great opportunity with all of the different nursing paths they offer. Thanks again and keep us posted on how everything goes.

    Best of luck,
    Stephanie
    I'm converting from GL to Public Health Service but remaining at the same Bureau of Prisons facility. Public Health Service places a lot of value on mobility, geographic and programatic, for promotion. So, the many paths offered are not only personally rewarding, they are important for career progression. FYI, promotion beyond O-3 is competitive.
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    Hello,
    I have one more class to go before I get my BSN and I was planning on returning to the army. I have 81/2 years prior service. However, I was looking into the USPHS but I did not see were they offered any bonus or pay back for school tutions. Plus their assignments seems limited. Any information you can give me would be appreiciated. Email
    rujane2001@yahoo.com






    Quote from wtbcrna
    I can't give an unbiased opinion between AF and Army, but I can give you some facts/advice.

    1. AF deployments are 4-6mo, usually. AF considers a manning assist to Landstuhl for 4months as a deployment!
    2. AF nurse corps has the longest promotion time to major, so if you are anywhere close to making major I would stay in the Army until you pinned on Major and then transition over. The average time for an AF nurse to make major right now is 12-14 total time assuming that you came in as a new nurse or 8-10 after Captain. Don't listen to you recruiter if he trys to tell you any different!
    3. The AF medical facilities are generally very small compared to the Army.
    4. ER/ICU nurses usually have the worst jobs/worst schedules and are expected to take up the slack for the other nurses (ie. med-surg nurses). Sorry, if that upsets any med-surg nurses, but I have seen this at three different bases so far.
    5. If down time and education are your priorities right now....I suggest not going to any AETC bases (ie Wilford Hall, Keesler, etc).


    One other consideration besides the AF is USPHS...it is not the military/no real deployments, but it offers the same benefits/pay as the military. I am currently going school with a USPHS officer that was a Captian in the AF just over two years ago and is now an O-5/Commander in the USPHS.

    Good Luck!

    Hope this helps a little bit.

    Capt E, USAF, NC
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    Quote from jane123
    Hello,
    I have one more class to go before I get my BSN and I was planning on returning to the army. I have 81/2 years prior service. However, I was looking into the USPHS but I did not see were they offered any bonus or pay back for school tutions. Plus their assignments seems limited. Any information you can give me would be appreiciated. Email
    rujane2001@yahoo.com
    Try this link: http://dcp.psc.gov/vats/rpt_category_button.asp

    You can also look on www.usajobs.gov you just need to look for positions for commissioned corps officers.

    You can also look directly at agencies that use USPHS officers...US marshall, FDA, NIH, BOP, INS, DIHS, CDC, NOAA, Coast Guard (not exactly sure where they post their vacancies)...

    The 1st two I listed are probably your best bet.
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    I converted from civil service to PHS in October. In exchange for a four year committment, I got a $20,000 assension bonus paid up front. I am eligible for the GI Bill, which is now at $36,000+. Loan reimbursement may be available from the agency you will be assigned to, escpecially with Indian Health Service.

    As for assignments:

    Federal Bureau of Prisons (nationwide)
    Indian Health Service (many areas nationwide)
    FDA
    NIH
    CDC
    EPA
    Coast Guard
    and others


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