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Hello, I'm Sergeant Josh Hopper and I work with the Air Force Nursing Corps for Ohio and Indiana. If any of you have ever had any questions feel free to post them. One question I get alot is about our MSN scholarships. We pay... Read More


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    No, offense to healthcare recruiters, but other than the very basics and being very knowledgeable on the recruiting process most healthcare recruiters do not know that much about the Nurse Corps. It is better to ask the Chief Nurse during your interview the specific nurse corps questions you may have or a current nurse corps officer.
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    Josh, I really like what I see!!

    Next couple of questions:
    A: What is the demand like for midwives?
    B: Are there only so many accepted per year?
    C: How do they work the hiring process?
    D: How long does it take to make rank?
    E: Would I be able to sign up while I am still finishing school? Or do I need to wrap this up before taking that plunge?

    Thanks again so much.
    There were no funded slots for midwives this year.
    The number changes year to year based on attrition rates/expected attrition rates in 2-3yrs.
    4yrs to Captain as new nurse and about 12 yrs total to make Major.
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    One of the things that they won't tell you, too, is that your ability to go to school is entirely dependent on your Squadron Commander's policy. My current hospital isn't allowing anyone to PCS (move), including for school, until they have four years here. So you may find yourself putting 10 years in until you get those benefits. And if you are lucky enough to snag an AFIT spot (and the odds are very, very slim for that), it can still be taken away if they have different needs. Same thing goes with flight nursing, or any other special role.

    After a year in the Air Force, I'm paying my own way through my MSN in Clinical Trials Research in my own time. This isn't a sure thing, either - even if you become a CRNA or NP in your own time, if your commander needs you as an RN, you're staying an RN. And there's no magic promotion.

    I'd be glad to answer any AF nursing questions for you by PM! My specialty is mental health, but I've got a lot of good friends in other specialties... My number one piece of advice is to talk to a nurse in the specialty you want to get in - the recruiters' knowledge is often VERY different than the real world of AF nursing.
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    Hi Aura,

    I am currently a counselor and am expecting to start nursing school this summer. I understand that the AF generally puts new, inexperienced nurses in med/surg or L&D, but do think they would make an exception in my case if I applied to be a psych nurse? Thank you.
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    To commission as an AF psych nurse, you typically have to have psych nursing experience (I say "typically" because there are very few of us, <40 last time I checked). Do you have your Master's in counseling? Many of our technicians (who are enlisted) have their Bachelor's in psych or related fields. I couldn't say for sure whether they'd accept your experience... You can always transition into psych after a few years of med-surg or L&D, but I'd definitely understand if you want to stay in psych - I know I did!

    One of the big things to consider is as a psych nurse you can only go to two bases (we only work inpatient), Travis AFB in Fairfield, CA, and Lackland, near Austin, TX. As a regular nurse, you can go pretty much anywhere because you are also used in the clinics. I didn't find that out until I was already done with COT, which was quite the shock for someone who joined to travel.
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    Quote from aura_of_laura
    One of the things that they won't tell you, too, is that your ability to go to school is entirely dependent on your Squadron Commander's policy. My current hospital isn't allowing anyone to PCS (move), including for school, until they have four years here. So you may find yourself putting 10 years in until you get those benefits. And if you are lucky enough to snag an AFIT spot (and the odds are very, very slim for that), it can still be taken away if they have different needs. Same thing goes with flight nursing, or any other special role.

    After a year in the Air Force, I'm paying my own way through my MSN in Clinical Trials Research in my own time. This isn't a sure thing, either - even if you become a CRNA or NP in your own time, if your commander needs you as an RN, you're staying an RN. And there's no magic promotion.

    I'd be glad to answer any AF nursing questions for you by PM! My specialty is mental health, but I've got a lot of good friends in other specialties... My number one piece of advice is to talk to a nurse in the specialty you want to get in - the recruiters' knowledge is often VERY different than the real world of AF nursing.
    Aura,

    I don't think the Squadron or Group CC has any say so on applying to AFIT or going to AFIT sponsored slot for school other than giving a recommendation, if they are telling nurses they cannot apply then those individuals need to notify AFIT and possibly file an IG complaint. AFIT slots are on the AF level, and as far as I know your squadron or individual command cannot stop you from applying once you meet the requirements.

    AFIT slots are not that hard to get as long as you meet the requirements. The application process is a pain in the butt. There aren't that many slots for some AFIT speciality areas, but overall it isn't that hard to get one of slots in one of the well funded areas.

    You cannot do CRNA on your own time while AD in the AF. Once you become a CRNA or an NP through AFIT your AFSC changes to that of an APN. You will be PCS'd after school into that APN role. Your squadron/group has very little say so in having you do other duties for that 1st assignment out of school for NPs. CRNAs are totally different. Once you are a CRNA you will stay a CRNA. It is actually very hard to get out of being CRNA once you become one in the military. You won't be doing other duties outside of being a nurse anesthetist unless you get special permission on the AF level or gain enough rank to become CC.
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    Aura,

    I don't think the Squadron or Group CC has any say so on applying to AFIT or going to AFIT sponsored slot for school other than giving a recommendation, if they are telling nurses they cannot apply then those individuals need to notify AFIT and possibly file an IG complaint. AFIT slots are on the AF level, and as far as I know your squadron or individual command cannot stop you from applying once you meet the requirements.
    I had a Sq CC pull someone back from AFIT the week before they were supposed to start (after the almost two year application and waiting process). There were people that outranked the Sq CC advocating for that person, but the Sq CC had the final decision. It would be awfully hard to get into AFIT without your CC's support.
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    Quote from aura_of_laura
    I had a Sq CC pull someone back from AFIT the week before they were supposed to start (after the almost two year application and waiting process). There were people that outranked the Sq CC advocating for that person, but the Sq CC had the final decision. It would be awfully hard to get into AFIT without your CC's support.
    I am sure there is more to that story. AFIT (Sandra Bruce) needs to know these things and there is nothing wrong with filing an IG complaint!

    The decision shouldn't even involve the Squadron or Group CC. This should go through the CN and AFIT HQ. You don't even route the application through the Squadron CC. That whole situation doesn't make sense.

    I did my MSN through AFIT. What you are describing is very unusual.

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    hello sergeant hopper,

    i am interested in doing af rotc and then doing a crna program. how much of my initial commitment from rotc will i have to serve before being eligible to enter a graduate program.

    thanks
    Last edit by kayt on Feb 3, '12 : Reason: ...
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    Quote from kayt
    hello sergeant hopper,

    i am interested in doing af rotc and then doing a crna program. how much of my initial commitment from rotc will i have to serve before being eligible to enter a graduate program.

    thanks
    the time requirement doesn't change for rotc nurses. it is still two years time on station before you are eligible for afit.


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