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- Sep 16, '09 by rghbsnIf you don't graduate COT, you don't stay in the AF...which means you don't get any kind of bonus.
- Sep 17, '09 by wtbcrnaQuote from rghbsnI don't know if that is exactly true. When I was in COT we had a couple that didn't graduate and they were just recycled through the next class. One of them was actually just put to work at Maxwell in the clinic until they could figure out what to do with them. My understanding was that since you are already a commissioned officer, not like BOT/OTS, that COT is more of a preliminary step. Maybe things have changed since I was at COT......If you don't graduate COT, you don't stay in the AF...which means you don't get any kind of bonus.
- Sep 17, '09 by rghbsnWell, I know they'll be recycled...they will give them a few opportunities to graduate. But I don't know how they can keep them in as an officer of the AF if they can't pass officer training. I would think that they'd be separated from service as failure to adapt or unfit for service. They would still use the warm body with the degree to do some work, though, while the paperwork was being done. At least that's how the Marines used recruits that couldn't pass.
- Sep 17, '09 by kimora2009thats what recruiter do they will tell you anything just to make there number for that month do your research and call around first before you force into something
- Sep 23, '09 by anmorgan32So I have lots of questions for you lovely ladies (and gentlemen). I am in my senior year of nursing school and will be graduating in May 2010 with my BSN. I have recently began to consider joining the nursing corps in the military (specifically the Air Force or Army) as an option for many reasons. The sign on bonus' and loan repayment options sound mighty appealing, the job market is poor-even for nurses right now, and I grew up an Army brat so I have experience with the military lifestyle. My question is...when can I start this process? Do I contact a recruiter and start now? Can I do this before I graduate? I have been hesitant to contact a recruiter because I know how ruthless they can be and I didn't want that pressure while I was still trying to figure out if this is what I want to do. I have decided to bring my Dad along (the Army retiree) when I do meet with a recruiter just so that I don't get duped into signing something I don't want.
Now I also have questions for those of you who are already nurses in the Air Force (or those of you who know the answers). What are the odds of getting deployed overseas? ( if this is even able to be estimated), what kind of say do you have in where you are stationed and what nursing specialty you get placed in?, and as a nurse in the Air Force, is the focus still on patient care and patient advocacy, or is it more about competition to make rank?
I know I threw a lot of questions out there. Any advice you could offer would be greatly appreciated!!
- Sep 23, '09 by Miss MabHi Anmorgan--
I see you are new to the forum and have asked some pretty important questions. There's lots of good info here and I would suggest searching through many of the posts as I think you'll find relevant answers(and lots more) from there.
The one thing I would say is that it is almost never too early to begin your recruiter/info gathering process. Particularly for the AF if that should remain an interest.
I wish you luck and welcome!!
- Sep 23, '09 by JayBSNNow I also have questions for those of you who are already nurses in the Air Force (or those of you who know the answers). What are the odds of getting deployed overseas? ( if this is even able to be estimated), what kind of say do you have in where you are stationed and what nursing specialty you get placed in?, and as a nurse in the Air Force, is the focus still on patient care and patient advocacy, or is it more about competition to make rank?
Those are some good questions. And, you'll have more as you go. Start researching now. Go on the AF website and look at COT information including ship out dates and determine what your goal is. If you want to leave in August after graduation your planning will be much different than if you want to leave in October or January including NCLEX prep and physical training. Also, please don't join the military just based on our cruddy economy. As I'm sure you have experienced, the military is a lifestyle, not a job. And please don't take that as rude, I know some people respond rudely to posts and I'm definitely not trying to do that. that was just was the nurse I interviewed with told me.
Army vs. Airforce
Army has better bonus' usually but you are trained to be a soldier first and foremost. In the air force, the bonus' are typically less, there are less hospitals, however, you are only a nurse. You're training in significantly different in the air force than in the army. I chose the air force. I'm not a soldier nor do I ever want to be. : P Both branches claim/require patient care is the focus however, you should definitely seek out some nurses who are in the military. Of course in both branches there are many types of nursing. The nurse I interviewed with has a desk job. She runs a clinic but doesn't see patients but is still patient focused. Again: I urge you to talk to a nurse in the branch of your choice and the recruiters should be able to put you in touch with one. They may tell you more about their experiences.
In the airforce: As a new grad, you have two choices when you enter: OB and MedSurg. From there, after completion of Nurse Transition, you can make goals and choices and and talk to your supervisor about schooling, certifications, and experiences you'd like to try. Still the military's needs come first.
As far as bases, as a new grad, you are most likely to get one of the NTP locations however, you have choices of a bunch more bases that have hospitals. Again, I've been told, you are pretty likely to get one of your top 5 however, military needs are #!.
Lastly: "YOU WILL BE DEPLOYED." <~~from the (nurse) commander of a clinic that I interviewed with. And there are 2 relatively new and VERY advanced hospitals in both Iraq and Afghanistan. They are relatively safe but...you know the drill. Nothing guarenteed. Goodluck in your searching and if you need anything feel free to give a shout.
- Sep 23, '09 by bds165i would second miss mab...there's a ton of good info on this site.
here'a link to a booklet i found that had some great info as well.
everything i've read about the af recruitment process says that the fall of your senior year of nursing is the time to start.
best of luck with the recruiter and school!
- Sep 23, '09 by Miss MabHi Jay!
I know you're very excited about your plans and goals but I'm not sure this is exactly accurate...
"Army vs. Airforce
Army has better bonus' usually but you are trained to be a soldier first and foremost. In the air force, the bonus' are typically less, there are less hospitals, however, you are only a nurse. You're training in significantly different in the air force than in the army. I chose the air force. I'm not a soldier nor do I ever want to be. :
No matter which branch one should choose, you are always an Airmen, Soldier or Sailor first. Please don't let that be minimized by anybody. You'd be surprised by how much 'Warrior" training you'll be doing.
In fact, I sometimes might wish I only had to be a nurse in the Air Force, however, literally 70% of my duties have nothing to do with being an RN. (Your jobs may vary)
- Sep 23, '09 by anmorgan32Thanks for all the advice. I will definitely check out that website. And I will search this site a little more to answer more of my questions.