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| |  Air Force Nurse Rank????
Can anyone tell me what rank nurses start off as in the Air Force. www.airforce.com mentions "Nurses in the Air Force enter as officers with the same rank as physicians, leading to a more team-oriented environment." That's great, but what is that rank? I am up for an AFROTC Nursing Scholarship and am trying to consider salary - military v. civilian. I am aware that military will be considerably less, but am trying to find out exactly just how much. Thanks.
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Jul 17, 2005, 10:47 PM
I hear it's as an officer.
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Jul 17, 2005, 10:54 PM
Thanks, I know it is an officer, but I am wondering what pay grade.
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Jul 17, 2005, 11:01 PM
Originally Posted by meaganc13 Thanks, I know it is an officer, but I am wondering what pay grade.
Oops. I'm sorry. I missed that. Too tired.
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Jul 18, 2005, 12:07 AM
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Jul 18, 2005 at 12:15 AM by prmenrs
I think it goes 2nd lieutenant, 1st lieutenant, captain, major, lt. colonel, colonel, brigadier general, I don't know after that.
Navy: ensign , lieutenant junior grade, lieutenant, lt commander, commander, captain, rear admiral, vice admiral, admiral, fleet admiral.
If I remember correctly, that's how they go, bottom to top. http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/.../officers.html http://www.ecsu.ctstateu.edu/persona...cock/ranks.htm | | No. 5 |
Jul 18, 2005, 07:36 AM
Originally Posted by meaganc13 Can anyone tell me what rank nurses start off as in the Air Force. www.airforce.com mentions "Nurses in the Air Force enter as officers with the same rank as physicians, leading to a more team-oriented environment." That's great, but what is that rank? I am up for an AFROTC Nursing Scholarship and am trying to consider salary - military v. civilian. I am aware that military will be considerably less, but am trying to find out exactly just how much. Thanks.
I think it is all based on education level and experience, for example: 4yrs. Undergrad + 4yrs. Med school + passing the United States Medical Licensing Exam (USMLE) + 1yr. experience = Capt. Or, 4 yrs. BSN + 10 yr. experience = 1st Lt.
However, there may be more to it. I do think some physicians are of the 1st and 2nd Lt. variety, but that may have to do with being currently involved in earning a medical degree.
So, it could be construed as entry as a 1st or 2nd Lt (which makes more sense because a physician probably would not stand for the the thought of someone with less education being their equal in rank upon intial entry into the Services), or entry as a Captain.
You'd have to ask them point blank.
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Jul 18, 2005, 07:44 AM
In some services you can enter as an O3 Originally Posted by Lambert5883 I think it is all based on education level and experience, for example: 4yrs. Undergrad + 4yrs. Med school + passing the United States Medical Licensing Exam (USMLE) + 1yr. experience = Capt. Or, 4 yrs. BSN + 10 yr. experience = 1st Lt.
However, there may be more to it. I do think some physicians are of the 1st and 2nd Lt. variety, but that may have to do with being currently involved in earning a medical degree.
So, it could be construed as entry as a 1st or 2nd Lt (which makes more sense because a physician probably would not stand for the the thought of someone with less education being their equal in rank upon intial entry into the Services), or entry as a Captain.
You'd have to ask them point blank.
If you come from the civilian side of the house, your rank will depend on the amount of time you have been an RN. You earn what is called constructive credit which is 1/2 of your time as a nurse in the civilian world. Also, your degree and position will give you credit towards rank (MSN, CRNA, CCRN, etc).
So (for example) if you have been working for 4 years that would equal 2 years towards rank and you would enter as a 1LT (this is exactly what happened to me). Some of my peers entered as CPT because of their experiences, qualifications, etc.
Mike
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Jul 18, 2005, 08:26 AM
Originally Posted by mwbeah If you come from the civilian side of the house, your rank will depend on the amount of time you have been an RN. You earn what is called constructive credit which is 1/2 of your time as a nurse in the civilian world. Also, your degree and position will give you credit towards rank (MSN, CRNA, CCRN, etc).
So (for example) if you have been working for 4 years that would equal 2 years towards rank and you would enter as a 1LT (this is exactly what happened to me). Some of my peers entered as CPT because of their experiences, qualifications, etc.
Mike
I agree...an on that airforce website link that was given there is a chart for the payscale depending on what your rank is (ie o3, etc). Now like Mike said, depends on education and experience re: how much rank credit they will give you...but the pay scale in on that site..it was under FAQ.
Kathryn
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Jul 27, 2005, 11:58 AM
Originally Posted by meaganc13 Can anyone tell me what rank nurses start off as in the Air Force. www.airforce.com I am up for an AFROTC Nursing Scholarship and am trying to consider salary - military v. civilian. I am aware that military will be considerably less, but am trying to find out exactly just how much. Thanks.
If you first graduate from a school of nursing, you will be commissioned as a 2nd Lt whether you were an AFROTC cadet or a direct accession commission. The only way to be offered a higher rank is to have work experience as an RN which will be considered for constructive credit as others have mentioned. New grads = 0-1. I would encourage you to pursue the AFROTC track if that is an option. That preparation for officership is superb. Hope this helps.
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Sep 17, 2005, 12:08 PM
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Hello Everyone.. I'm an AF nurse...came in straight out of nursing school. I'm a 2nd lieutenant (0-1).....every AF nurse starts out there...To be honest..I've never seen physicians come in as Lieutenants....all the dr's I've seen have been Capt and up...not sure if that is just at my base (since this is my first duty station) or not...Hope this helps....anymore questions...let me know! Originally Posted by meaganc13 Can anyone tell me what rank nurses start off as in the Air Force. www.airforce.com mentions "Nurses in the Air Force enter as officers with the same rank as physicians, leading to a more team-oriented environment." That's great, but what is that rank? I am up for an AFROTC Nursing Scholarship and am trying to consider salary - military v. civilian. I am aware that military will be considerably less, but am trying to find out exactly just how much. Thanks. |
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