Why dont we get respect as LTC nurses? - page 7

Hi everyone, I am hoping for some input to a questions that has been really burning my butt. I am a new nurse, and recently switched from med-surg at a local hospital (loved the job, hated the 12... Read More

  1. by   NurseMMM
    Quote from CapeCodMermaid
    MMM-I think you need a vacation.
    I don't need a vacation, thank you. And find your remark insulting. Guess you are one of those nurses who get a chucle at someone elses expense? huh?

    What I need is respect. Or atleast someone to validate that offering a nurse half of what she is making is an insult. Why don't they tell you what they are offering over the phone when you ask before the interview and not waste your time?

    Or maybe I am just fed up with nursing after 25 years of doing it? And working with nurses like yourself that make cheap shots? And think it ok for you to do it?
  2. by   SuesquatchRN
    Quote from NurseMMM
    I don't need a vacation, thank you. And find your remark insulting. Guess you are one of those nurses who get a chucle at someone elses expense? huh?

    What I need is respect. Or atleast someone to validate that offering a nurse half of what she is making is an insult. Why don't they tell you what they are offering over the phone when you ask before the interview and not waste your time?

    Or maybe I am just fed up with nursing after 25 years of doing it? And working with nurses like yourself that make cheap shots? And think it ok for you to do it?
    Uhm, I do believe she was kdding. Really.
  3. by   deleern
    Quote from ingelein
    Family Care Program (will allow more elderly and disabled to be taken care of at home) by Medicaid is coming, may be the beginning of the end for LTC facilities!!!:hatparty:
    I honestly think that with the Baby boomers "comming of age" we will not see the end of the nursing home setting. we are also being confronted with the "meth Heads" that are in there 30's and 40's .

    I work in Long term Care now as an LPN and will continue as an RN. I find the work rewarding and i love my residents. we are always at full capacity.

    we will also need the family care program because the waiting list is so long to get in LTC. my opinion for what it is worth.
  4. by   Simplepleasures
    Quote from NurseMMM
    I don't need a vacation, thank you. And find your remark insulting. Guess you are one of those nurses who get a chucle at someone elses expense? huh?

    What I need is respect. Or atleast someone to validate that offering a nurse half of what she is making is an insult. Why don't they tell you what they are offering over the phone when you ask before the interview and not waste your time?

    Or maybe I am just fed up with nursing after 25 years of doing it? And working with nurses like yourself that make cheap shots? And think it ok for you to do it?
    Hi, I agree there are certain types on this board that toss around pretty insulting phrases a bit too often. If anybody posts a opinion contrary to theirs, thats when it seems to happen.Sad hey? I am sure we all need a vacation at one time or another , but because someone is venting about the TRUE happenings in LTC is not a reason to try to make them seem ill equiped to deal with their situation. Actually if one is a HUMAN being they are ill equiped to deal with what goes on in LTC, my opinion only. Carry on Nurse MMM , you're OK, but then you dont need me to tell you this.
    Last edit by Simplepleasures on Dec 19, '06
  5. by   Simplepleasures
    Quote from CapeCodMermaid
    In Vermont, the state will pay a family member $10/hr to take care of an elderly family member so they don't have to go to LTC. My facility has 120 beds...of those maybe 15 could be taken care of at home. The rest of them either have multiple illnesses, potential skin issues, dementia, meds with parameters...you name it, they have it. It sounds lovely in theory, but most family members just aren't trained or equipped to care for old,sick people.
    The Family Care Program is designed to take Medicaid money and use it for NURSING care in the patients home or in an assisted living facility, NURSES will be coming in to the home to help the family member take care of their loved ones.The phylosophy of wharehousing our elderly and disabled IS beginning to shift to keeping them OUT of nursing homes, do some research ,I think you will find that because of the poor care LTCs have provided in the past and continue to provide , the GOVERNMENT has FINALLY made strides to keep our loved ones at home. I have heard you say that most family is ill equiped to take care of their loved ones, most family can learn, PLUS they will have NURSING care come into their homes to help them.In my state the Governer is Democratic and is pushing for this type to be expanded throughout or state.
  6. by   Simplepleasures
    Quote from delee99
    I honestly think that with the Baby boomers "comming of age" we will not see the end of the nursing home setting. we are also being confronted with the "meth Heads" that are in there 30's and 40's .

    I work in Long term Care now as an LPN and will continue as an RN. I find the work rewarding and i love my residents. we are always at full capacity.

    we will also need the family care program because the waiting list is so long to get in LTC. my opinion for what it is worth.
    There will probably always be some form of nursing home in the future, but when the Family Care Program or something similar to this gets expanded( which it is in my state), I believe we will see nursing homes either start closing down OR be FORCED to DRASTICALLY improve( which I doubt will ever happen, due to corporate greed).Waiting list in nursing homes, maybe,but in WI there where quite a few nursing homes that were shut down due to POOR CARE and other unsavory reasons.
  7. by   RNHawaii34
    i love nursing, and i like long term care. yes it's hard, but i like working with older people. for some reason i get more respect from them than the people outside the long term care facility. i work as a nurse for a month in a hospital and i didn't like it, maybe because i am new. well, i guess i will stay her in ltc for until i get tired of it and move on to something. i don't really care if others will put me down just because i work in ltc. we all passed the same licensing exam, and somehow started at lower wages. other than that, we are all nurses.. and if somebody will put you down..they are the ones who have issues, maybe the need to get la** or something. but, just be glad you are not like them..happy holidays!:icon_razz: :holly1:
  8. by   RNHawaii34
    Quote from homicidalnurse
    awwwww, honey. nurses will look down on geriatric/ltc nurses, prison nurses, nurses without husbands, nurses with the wrong purses. just wait till you have the joy of some emt trying to make you feel like crap!!!

    do they make fun of these too? this is so funny, i never know that? i thought not having a husband is cool for nurses
  9. by   TheCommuter
    Quote from GardenDove
    There is a definate hierarchy of respect in nursing, and yes I think LTC is considered less hotshot. I noticed when I switched to CCU/ICU, that my status went up from what it was as a Med-Surg nurse, which was a higher status than when I was LTC. People consider it more technical, and it requires a higher level of education.
    RNs in med-surg possess the same education and licensure as the RNs who work in LTC. LPNs/LVNs who work in med-surg possess the same education and licensure as the LPNs/LVNs work in LTC.
  10. by   CapeCodMermaid
    Yikes! I did not mean to offend. You just sounded really stressed out in your post. As one of those who does the hiring...I am embarrassed to offer the salary I do, but I have no control over that...it is a corporate decision and not mine to make.
  11. by   GardenDove
    Quote from TheCommuter
    RNs in med-surg possess the same education and licensure as the RNs who work in LTC. LPNs/LVNs who work in med-surg possess the same education and licensure as the LPNs/LVNs work in LTC.
    Untrue, there are continuing education requirements to work in ICU that are above and beyond a nursing lisence. It definately requires a more in depth medical knowledge. You are correct about Med-Surg however, but I was talking about nursing specialties.

    When I worked LTC right out of nursing school it only required a relatively short orientation period. When I switched to acute care, it require a month long orientation period, because there is alot more in depth skill required in the hospital. Then, switching to a more specialty area required addition training and classes.

    I have a friend who recently switched to surgical nursing. The training is very extensive, at least 6 months. Switching to any nursing specialty requires much more than just a nursing lisence.
  12. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from GardenDove
    Untrue, there are continuing education requirements to work in ICU that are above and beyond a nursing lisence. It definately requires a more in depth medical knowledge. You are correct about Med-Surg however, but I was talking about nursing specialties.

    When I worked LTC right out of nursing school it only required a relatively short orientation period. When I switched to acute care, it require a month long orientation period, because there is alot more in depth skill required in the hospital. Then, switching to a more specialty area required addition training and classes.

    I have a friend who recently switched to surgical nursing. The training is very extensive, at least 6 months. Switching to any nursing specialty requires much more than just a nursing lisence.
    I think the poster was refering to nursing school education, not the continuing education
  13. by   TheCommuter
    Quote from GardenDove
    Untrue, there are continuing education requirements to work in ICU that are above and beyond a nursing lisence.
    None of my posts had ever mentioned anything regarding the ICU. I had mentioned med-surg and LTC.

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